PG showdown coming up in the next 6 weeks

And it's also a league where you have to play some defense in order to force other teams into bad shots or at least challenge them. Brooks has been downright horrendous defensively as well as Martin. The problem with this right now is that Yao lateral mobility really sucks and he is not able to cover for their mistakes like in years past.

I love Brooks and I'm not going to jump to conclusions after beating some the crappier teams in the league but one thing is clear, our defense looks a lot better with Lowry in there.

We have plenty of people that can make shots and we obviously can score, so that's not the problem. The problem is having weak defenders in 3 of the 5 positions in our starting line up and that is horrible combination. Like I said though, we'll find out when we play the good teams how valuable Lowry truly is in the starting line up.

 

You say you are not jumping to conclusions, then you jump to a conclusion..lol.

Fair enough, but IMO, when you need a bucket late, you need at least 4 if not 5 guys as offensive threats.

We saw how badly it went in the Washington game when we played 3 on 5 down the stretch and tried to catch up.

Tell you what though, while the Lowry gang may not be the majority, they are certainly a vocal minority.

:grin:

DD

 

I agree we need more than Carmello, but he's the kind of guy we need to start with to build a true contender.

As far as Billups, he came into the league 2 years younger than Brooks did. When Billups was 26 (Brooks' current age), he put up a PER of 20.

 

Lowry doesn't have to finish every game. When we are down late in the fourth its probably best to have Brooks in there, but when we are up and need defense then we have Lowry in there.

 

As I have been saying all along, play whomever is hot at the time, be that offensively hot or defensively hot.

We are better off with both of them.

DD

 

I agree, having both is a blessing.

 

Exactly, as an example when we were down against Washington we needed Brooks scoring and 3ball, last night against the Knicks, Lowry was apt....

Heck, actually Ish was the best...last night.

Either way, we need both of our PGs to play....our problems arise when they both struggle.

DD

 

When billup was 26, he was 16ppg 3.9 asst 1.8 to's 42%fg also. I never expect a 2nd full yr starter to do what a 7 yr vet will do.

 

With good defense and a high TS%.

Do you realistically expect Brooks to become as good as Billups in his prime?

 

unless Brooks can grow 3 more inches and weigh 20-25 more lbs...he will always be a defensive liability.

 

I know we're not going to agree on this, but let me say this and I will let it go, anytime you can get to the rim, you're creating a play for yourself and others. When brooks gets to the rim, you think the defense stays home and let his man defend him to the rim or do you think they collapse and open a window for offensive rebound? My college coach said if a guard can get below the free throw line off the dribble, he is the most dangerous player on the court. This same college coach also was a coach on the professional level and overseas as well as winning some d-3 chamionships and guiding our d-1 program to the tourney. Guys like beno,blake,ridenour and other can't get their feet below the free throw line to collapse the defense. The threat of that type of player makes defenses squeeze the paint more. Brooks ability to get to the line and pull up makes him that more difficult to guard. Now, do he needs to probably kick out more, but some act like they don't see the kickouts and misses either. I guess we will see how this thing will play out.

 

I agree, Brooks just needs to make better decision when he does get to the hoop, as he so often does.

 

Billups prime was 3 yrs after that for the most part. His first year in detroit, he was just a guy. I actually liked chauncey his last year in minny when he was playing for the injured t. brandon. I personally don't know how good brooks can be, but I know these so called post up pg's have had trouble handling brooks last year and the year before. Those so called mismatches were gettng abused by brooks and that included billups,paul and guys like that. There are really only a couple of post up pg's left in the league today anyway. now if this were late 80's-early 90's with the hand checking stuff, i would be concerned, but it isn't.

 

Hehehehehe.


Precisely why Lowry is so dangerous.

 

I think people are extremely underrating Brooks' passing ability. No he isn't as great of a passer as some but he is a decent passer and his passing is not atrocious like some people make it out to be. I do agree he is bad on defense but a 28 fg% is not acceptable either. I think with the emergence of Smith the likelihood is that Lowry would be traded first.

 

Brooks was 60th and 62nd in pure point rating and assist ratio, respectively. (Out of 71 point guards).

 

This year?

 

Ding ding ding.

No.

DD

 

Last year.