PFT: Keenum could leapfrog Yates (maybe eventually Schaub)

Wow, McClain is really going out on a limb there.

 

Keep both. As the season progresses, trade TJ.

Problem solved.

 

They should. Yates did not do enough to lose the job, but I still say Keenum will be the starting QB going into next season. They could trade Yates and have Schaub as the backup.

 

The Texans would have a more dangerous option if Brees, Brady, Manning, RGIII, Luck, Newton, Wilson, Flacco, Eli, Ryan, Kaepernick, Romo, Stafford, Big Ben, Vick, and maybe even Josh Freeman. Schaub falls around 15-17 for me and I'd rather see the ones I named work the QB-friendly system the Texans run. Could you imagine any of those QBs with some speed wide open on those bootlegs .

 

Josh Freeman is god awful now, do not want. Not sure I would trade Schaub for Big Ben....I might only do it because he has title (and title experience).

 

Sure - but those are the kinds of players people gameplan for (along with the running QBs like RG3, Kaepernick, Vick, etc). I think the original point was that you don't gameplan for a Schaub, and that's true. You gameplan for the great ones - and it doesn't make those offenses easier to stop.

 

So if it's so easy, why can't 30 other teams do it? Why do all these QBs consistently obliterate most teams if they are so easy to stop? Are all those teams just dumb and they don't gameplan for these guys?

 

Schaub has a better QB rating last year than Luck, Newton, Flacco, Eli, Romo, Stafford, Vick and Freeman. 9th best in the league to be exact.

And yes, the Texans would be better if they had Brees, Rogers, Manning, or Brady. What's your point? So would every other team in the NFL.

 

One thing's for sure. Keenum ain't going on the practice squad.

 

The "gameplan" argument is weak and just seems like a buzzword thrown around. All defense gameplan for all offenses, every week. Teams try to keep RG3 running limited so they might keep a spy...teams try to keep Schaub's playaction fake and bootleg limited by making the DEs play contain. Either way a discussion is had on what the QB can and can't do. I don't think DCs are dumb enough to say "no gameplan for Schaub this week...he can't throw 60 yards on a frozen rope and he doesn't run a 4.4....smoke em if you got em"

 

QB ratings doesn't tell all. Flacco, Eli, Romo, and Vick would kill in the Texans QB system. Sage Rosenfels even came in and was productive. Like he said on the radio, it is an easy system for QBs. Listen to this interview 610 gave to Sage Rosenfels.

Schaub is just average. Maybe slightly above.

 

I don't think that's technically possible.

 

No, they say blitz Schaub all day because he can't throw under pressure and isn't mobile enough to escape it. Don't worry about him on the PAs because he ain't runnin it. Just cover your man down the field.

 

Some of you guys need a reality check.

Schaub will not lose his starting job this year (barring injury). Unless he plays like Mark Sanchez (and despite the criticism, he hasn't been Sanchez bad), his job this year is relatively safe.

But if he performs late in the season and in the playoffs just like last season, I'm betting Kubiak and Smith will think about making a decision on Schaub as this year is the last guaranteed year in his contract extension (if I read it correctly).

Edit: Schaub's contract:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/matt-schaub/

TJ Yates has little to no trade value, maybe a late round pick for the desperate teams that wants a no risk looksy. Teams aren't going to rewind to the Bengals comeback game to gauge his value, they'll see that in his sparse playing time afterwards he's played mostly mediocre. This good preseason he's had still hasn't risen his stock, for the most part. (And fyi Keenum has no trade value either.)

And whoever posted that Schaub could be demoted to backup, lol. You don't pay that kind of cash to a backup, nor would Schaub accept it; his agent will request a trade.

 

I am pretty sure he is guaranteed money through next year so he will be the starter.

 

Of course it doesn't... I forgot the bbs rule - none of his above-average stats count.

That sounds simple enough. I guess 13 of the 18 teams we played last year must have missed this memo.

 

It's a mismanagement of the roster to have either Yates or Keenum as a 3rd QB.

One of them must be traded for draft picks the same way Schaub was traded to the Texans.

In the short term we can afford to be patient until teams start to fall apart and their GMs are in desperate need of a decent QB to save their jobs.

But with big paydays to Watt/Cushing coming, we need more draft picks and players on rookie deals.

 

Schaub did well against the average to below average teams the Texans played. When he faced tougher competition, he never had good day. This year, the Texans are playing tougher defenses. I'm not saying the Texans can't win with Schaub. He is just average and the Texans could be more dangerous with the other QBs I named. It's the system.

 

What about Denver? Baltimore? He threw a combined 6 TDs and 1 INT for those two games.

FYI, Schaub was 4-4 against playoff teams last year. In comparison, Drew Brees was 1-5.

Every NFL QB in history plays better against weaker competition.

 

Flacco, Eli, Romo, and Vick

Flacco has shown he can pick up his game in the playoffs. Eli doesn't impress unless he's in the playoffs. Romo and Vick can't even make it into the playoffs. Schaub is only average so you want to replace him with seemingly other average QBs?