SAR for Allen will not happen. SAR, and his cap relief, for heavy contracts will have to include greater quality players to balance it for Blazers. SAR might wind up even further north, but it would not be an easy swap; it would require lots of bodies flowing in and out.
You know, the Rockets already have a lesser version of SAR in Mo Taylor, except SAR can play some small forward at times. There's no need for the guy here in Houston. Randolph would be more enticing, although Portland isn't going to trade the guy unless we give up Stevie. And I wouldn't want Houston to make that trade.
Well, let's take a look at the loser of that series. The Hornets might blow things up, new coach, new GM, might move some players. Thoughts on PJ Brown? He has a yearly salary of 8M, much more reasonable than Grant's and does pretty much the same work. I think PJ Brown would be a nice compliment to Yao. The Spurs were very interested in him last summer as a sidekick to Duncan. I am not sure what we could give up to get PJ, but he would be a nice PF for this team. Strong defense and can hit the medium range jumper.
PJ is showing wear and tear, and is not enough of an upgrade over Cato. A healthy Mash I'd like (he and Camby could make a great pairing for the med evac squad).
SAR used to be overrated. Now, I think he is underrated as people have overreacted to his falling short of their superstar dreams. I'd love to have him on the team. He actually could fill two needs the Rox have: (1) a big guy to play small forward when JJ is giving up too much size at the 3, and (2) a power forward who can provide some offense and rebounding at the same time. I'm unconcerned about his defense. How many All Defense players have we got, anchoring one of the best defenses in the league? None of our guys are really at all special at defense (most are ranked as below average by the BBS) and yet we run a great help defense system that more than makes up for that.
As for the question posed by the thread title, I would take Zach over SAR. I would trade Cat + Cato for SAR. Or perhaps Cat + MoT for SAR and Patterson. I would also strongly consider SF for SAR and some good spare parts.
I feel the same way when people pull out the "he isnt a good defender" card on certain players targeted for this team. I think it is all about the collective, the team defense. SAR is a solid player and would be solid on this team, certainly an upgrade over Taylor as far as a scoring 4. However, I would try to target someone like Donyell Marshall over SAR because Marshall has more range and a better contract.
Not one of those winners of the most improved player award had a season anywhere's near as good as the season Randolph had this season. In Randolph, we're talking about one of the few players that averaged over 20 pts and 10 rebounds a game last season and he did that sharing possessions with Rasheed Wallace and Shareef Abdur-Rahim. I think Randolph is an all star in the making and I never would have said that about any of the Most IMproved Player Award winners you listed above when they won the award.
Wake up, SAR fans. It's no coincidence that his numbers dropped to 10 pts and 4.5 rebounds as soon as he started playing for a team that didn't completely suck.
hey genius, he wont average his nearly 20/10 a night if he plays 22 minute per game. I would rather have niether on this team. Both are good offensive players, but cant play defense at all. Only reason we had such a good defense was because we had yao and cato clogging the lane half the game.
It's not very common, but you also have to think of a player like Tracy Mcgrady, Zach Randolph certainly looks like he will be very good. If you want to talk about potential, he's the same age as yao pretty much and is already 20 and 10 in the west.
I love this argument. With Marquise Daniels he only does so well because of all the talent surrounding him. With Shareef we completely reverse the argument and say he only did well on the Grizz and Hawks becuase of the lack of talent around him. I just find it a little funny. BTW I think both are good players.
this is a quote from one of sar's many fan sites. Hey Yo I found a cool stats page on NBA.com and apparently Shareef was second last year in having his shots blocked with 108 and has been blocked the most times in the last 11 seasons with 960. Why does Reef always have the crappy records?!
SAR for Cato would be good BB wise. But SAR makes a lot more money. If they are willing to take our bad contracts, such as Pike or Spoon, and throw in a pick, then I say we do it. BTW, stop thinking about Zach. Portland is not going to let him go anywhere.
Hey genius, if he was a legitimate 20/10 player, he wouldn't get only 22 minutes. In fact, his minutes just kept falling with portland. The last month, he was getting 7.5 pts and 3 rbnds in 17 minutes.
You sound as if you think those two arguements are mutually exclusive. It's easy to understand. On a team with a ton of talent, a lesser player can get opportunities because the defense is focused on the stars. Kind of like how the Rockets focused on taking Shaq and Kobe out of the game, and let Malone go for 30. Of course, I never made the arguement that Marquise Daniels is not a good player. On the other hand, on a bad team, someone has to get the minutes and shots, and teams don't play with the same intensity against them. Kind of like SAR. If he's such a good player, how come he almost fell out of the rotation on a .500 team?
