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Peter Vecsey: Rockets Are a Wreck

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dragon167, Dec 28, 2004.

  1. MadMax

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    oh,you didn't hear?? yeah Howard played 3 seasons for us. he was pretty good. i was so upset when we traded him that i gave up all NBA teams and started watching European leagues, exclusively. go barcelona.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    TO-NI BRAX-TON

    TO-NI BRAX-TON

    TO-NI BRAX-TON
     
  3. tigermission1

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    No, put Hunsicker on notice that we want him as our GM :D

    That guy, IMHO, is as good a GM as you will ever see.

    Of course, he will probably stick to baseball...
     
  4. Rockets10

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    I am normally the first to criticize Vecsey, but I think he is generally right in this article - the Howard Eisley mistake aside. CD has repeatedly made foolish personnel mistakes that have hurt us long-term. Has he made some good ones? Yes. But he has made an awful lot of bad ones too that I think are beginning to pile up to the point that change should be considered,
     
  5. codell

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    Depends on what your team needs.

    Posey didn't fit here. He was an average man to man defender and a streaky 3 point shooter. Not to say he wasn't a good player, but IMO, JJ gave us everything Posey would have give us for half the value. It was a good move.

    Kenny Thomas was our only tradeable PF at that time. Someone had to go and unfortunately it was KT. I would have loved to kept him, he was one of my favs, but .......what are you doing to do?

    As far as Wesley, lets reserve judgement. Lets see how we do on the court with him instead of JJ. Maybe well do better, maybe we wont.
     
  6. across110thstreet

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    the fact that we are trading with the worst team in the league is disastrous to me, houston has joined new orleans as the laughing stock of the NBA.

    why would we even affiliate ourselves with losers?

    oh thats right, we started that trend after making the playoffs for the first time in five years.
     
  7. jopatmc

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    I do not believe that CD is god but I do believe that he has been a good GM for this team. Right now, CD is just making the moves that Van Gundy wants him to make. In essence, CD has lost his ability to think for himself at this point and he is just pursuing deals for the players that Van Gundy prefers. I firmly believe that Van Gundy's ranting is causing most of the player movement. I'm just hoping that Van Gundy knows what he is doing and in the end of it all, we wind up with personnel better suited to play with Yao and TMac. We can't do a whole else but accept the direction that Les has given this franchise by hiring Van Gundy, paying him big money, and allowing him to dictate the style, tempo, and personnel that he wants.
     
  8. SWTsig

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    excellent post.

    codell, i think your reaching for some positive aspects to this trade and team in general. exactly what does this trade accomplish? how does this make this team better??? the guy we just traded for was struggling to score on the Hornets for crying out loud!

    i consider my knowledge of basketball and the players pretty decent, and this trade truly baffles me. it doesn't address anything that we need. where's the true PG we've all been begging for??? or how bout that banger 4 that we desperately need??? enough of these lateral trades that do little or absolutely nothing to improve this team get WINS.

    i'm just about ready to give the ol' heave-ho to CD, and maybe even JVG at this point.
     
  9. mogrod

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    And, who would these guys be? I hardly see any good options that are actually available to what the Rockets have to offer right now.

    Plus, who's to say that CD hasn't tried or may have something brewing sometime between now and the deadline? Rumors have been a plenty about the Rockets pursuing Nene, Marshall, PJ Brown, etc and, who knows, maybe this move was to open up a roster spot to add filler. Hell, maybe Wesley will be packaged in another deal in the next couple of days (doubtful but you never know). My point is, I think they are making small moves now they can ACTUALLY make. Let's all be a little bit more patient and see how this all pans out.
     
  10. gucci888

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    "Obviously, Van Gundy had some say regarding the recruitment of his perennial pet mistake. Ward got $1.7M and $1.8M guaranteed with a $2.04M team option. Why wait, Jeff? Pick it up right now. Nobody else was offering more than a 10-day contract."

    This should be somebody's signature.

    This is kind of a dumb article, but there's more truth than we know. The Rockets are a real mess right now, we don't seem to have any clear direction with this team. Our biggest problem with our roster should have been the first thing fixed (A rebounding PF). Lue for Barry was nice, but JJ/Boki for Wesley?

    New Coach. New GM. New Front Office. Look at what it did for Detroit, it basically turned their whole franchise around.
     
  11. hotballa

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    Do me a favor and watch him play a few games instead of looking at stats. After that, we can have this discussion.
     
  12. Rockets10

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    well you're right that nobody great seems available to us, but that doesnt mean you go off and make a trade for the sake of making a trade, which we basically just did. BTW, Wesley cannot be traded immediately per league rules.
     
  13. rocksolid

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    well said...i totally agree
     
  14. mogrod

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought during the season if a trade is made, you can trade a player within three days or so. Like the Hawks did with Rasheed Wallace last season. They traded for him and then traded him again within a few days.
     
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    Vecsey does suck, but he hits the proverbial nail right on the head. The team is an awful collection of point guards who can't dish, lack athleticism and would rather camp out at the 3-point line. We have a backup center (Dik) who was classmates with Methulsah. We have a rebounding impaired Mo and a past-his-prime tweener (Spoon) at PF.
    T-Mac and Yao are the only assets worth a damn on this team. Management and JVG, who okayed all of these boneheaded deals, should receive a severe beating. Or least be made to eat at Barnhill's Buffet.
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    That's exactly what I mean when I say that I have the impression that Dawson is a bad negotiator. Someone like Ward, with health problems, and with NO OTHER OFFERS FOR A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT, why would one give him a two-year contract. Yeah, say that I don't know that he had no other two-year contract offers, but come on...

    This is another clear case of unnecessary overpaying.

    AREN'T THE ROCKETS STILL PAYING FREAKING MATT MALONEY? :mad:
     
  17. Man

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    Hmm actually I think Damon wanted to be here but we didn't want him..cuz he said start a petition lol...damn he would ahve been good. Ward's injured. Sura I like him but he can't shoot. Lue's already gone.

    I think we'll be okay..but we should have kept Posey and Eddie..and maybe Kenny Thomas.

    I don't know what we can do now..we can stil lmake the playoffs hopefully
     
  18. rocksolid

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    Regardless, I'm not gonna get my hopes up that we're going to get an impact PF by acquiring and packaging David Wesley in a deal...
     
  19. Sooner423

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    I'm sorry to say but Howard Eisley never played for the Rockets. Remember guys, this is Vescey.
     
  20. Rockets10

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    It turns out we are both right in different scenarios. Explanation - If you acquire a player in a trade, you may trade that player straight up for another player immediately. If you wish to package that player with another and make a trade, you must wait 60 days.

    That means Wesley can only be traded straight up for someone else, but cannot be packaged in a deal for 60 days.
     

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