This is the guy that head butted Yao in the World Championships a few years back. PASS!!!!! I wanted someone to kill this guy then (not literally) but with the Chinese so passive it wasn't gonna happen. The only reason I would want him here now is for someone on a Houston street to show him what a real head butt is.
My bad; I glided right over that one. It seemed that most posters were promoting this guy to Anderson's backup without mention of Dorsey...
I'm going to bring this up again and take the usual hate. wouldn't frye for 2.25m been a better option than andersen or ramos? I know its been a coupld of years and it would help the rockets win a title this year, but at least you caan look from his rookie year and see actual production from frye. He's young, a 7ft er, and can shoot those elbow jumpers that adelman wants to have in the offense this year. Then sign a guy like petro for like 1.5 and the center population is in better shape than what it will be come training camp. Just saying.
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Beating a dead horse... but there is likely a reason that Morey didn't want those players. You don't know enough about Andersen to say that either of those guys would be better than him for the money they will be paying the guy. Hindsight is 20/20, but we've already seen what those two can do... we haven't seen what Andersen can do in the league yet. Plus the guy just wins games. I know he hasn't done it in the NBA yet, but I would rather have a guy who knows how to win championships and has helped create those wins than someone who has been pretty much benched for the past two years in the NBA
Agree. We should have gone after Frye. However, with that egg removed from the FA nest, why not look at Johan Petro rather than Ramos? He's just as young, far more athletic, a true 7-footer and has much more upside than Ramos. If not Petro, why not Chris Mihm? He can shoot, he's moderately athletic, he's a true 7-footer and he's more or less a local (UT / Texan anyway).
It looks like this thread was lifted from the RG forums... http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=935917
I tend to agree with what you say a good amount of the time, but don't see the logic here. Frye is what he is. Which is a mediocre producer on a bad team, and someone who barely gets playing time on a good team. And even when he was a mediocre producer, he struggled to be mediocre. Even if you wanted him to be a Brad Miller lite type player in an Adelman system, he really doesn't have the size to fill in at center, especially on the defensive end. Channign Frye instead of some guy named PJ Ramos? Of course, but I honestly would rather gamble with Andersen that add the known blah that is Frye.
Wow, his high in rebounds was 1. Granted his high in minutes is 5, but he couldn't grab two boards in five minutes of garbage time? Pass, and I'm Puerto Rican.
i dont think it means that necessarily. Chuck and landry, as well as scola, are still under 6'9. If andersen gets into foul trouble, has a bad game, or gets injured, you're right back where you started, without a center. He may just be insurance for Andersen.
But that has houston written all over it. Grab a guy who seems like he isn't going to work out who you believe has the natural tools you can't teach, you get him at a low price, then develop him, and you end up with a solid player at a bargain price.
I think Andersen can give you at least what Frye can. He definitely has a jumper, with more range, and I think he may be a better passer. That would mean he's a better fit for Adelman than Frye.
Through a contact of mine, I actually had a chance to watch about 20 games of andersen and I don't see it at all. Say what you will about frye, but I doubt if landry or scola would play on those teams at the 4 spot, that's not a knock on him. What I can see is nba production of a young player. Frye is what 24? At the least he's a backup for yao after this. Anderson will be what 30? I mean we should be getting younger,atheletic players to blend with our 30+ group. Now I never said frye would set the world on fire, but I would make a tip jar wager that he will have a more productive season this year than andersen. I know we didn't give up a lot in terms of drafts, but we did give up more of les's yao money, but for less of both, the team couldve had frye. That's all i'm saying.
They're not desperate all he'll be is a back up to a back up. Will provide lenght and athleticism in short periods of play, if he cracks the rotation that is. Dorsey's got his work cut out for him.
I understand why Morey went with Andersen. I think it might have been different if he thought we were legitimate contenders this year. Then, you want to seize the opportunity and make sure you put the best team out there. This isn't like the Scola deal, Andersen is more of a gamble. He may not pan out but it doesn't matter because this is somewhat of a experimental year. The one thing I don't get is how so many posters here are quick to say we KNOW what a young player will give us. It's just silly, as if 23-26 year old players don't progress. It's even funnier that they expect OUR players in that age range (or older) to develop but somehow other prospects don't. I'm sure the reason leebigez mentions a guy like Frye is because you know he can give you shooting/rebounding/size but he's young and he could possibly develop into something better.
The last two years, Ramos has been in Puerto Rico BSN Union and the Pirates Fuenlabrada Madrid Spain ACB League team. 同时，拉莫斯是波多黎各国家队的主力中锋，他曾经在2004年本国联赛当中场均砍下20.5分9.5个篮板和2.4次封盖。 At the same time, Ramos was the main center of Puerto Rico national team, he was in the national league in 2004 among the field are cut off 20.5 points 9.5 rebounds and 2.4 blocked shots. 2004年雅典奥运会，在波多黎各击败美国“梦六队”的那场比赛中，当时只有19岁的拉莫斯就是国家队的先发中锋，并在那场比赛当中起到了关键作用，于是引起了NBA的高度关注。 Athens Olympic Games in 2004, in Puerto Rico defeated the United States, "USA Basketball Team" in that game, only the 19-year-old Ramos is the first national team center, and in that game were played a key role, so aroused NBA great concern. 提起拉莫斯，中国球迷也许并不陌生，因为他与姚明之间曾经有过一段恩怨，也就是著名的“头槌门”。 Ramos brought the Chinese fans may not be unfamiliar to us, as he and Yao Ming had a period between the scores, that is, the famous "door header." 那是在2006年的日本世锦赛上，拉莫斯在比赛中不服姚明，用脑袋撞击巨人的鼻子和下巴，以此来挑衅中国国家队的首发中锋。 It was in the World Championships in Japan in 2006, the Ramos in the game against Yao Ming, a giant impact with the head of the nose and chin, in order to provoke the Chinese national team's starting center. 当时姚明怒不可遏，险些动手打了拉莫斯，幸亏被裁判和队友及时拉开才避免了一场殴斗。 Yao Ming was furious, almost beaten by Fidel Ramos, thanks to referees and teammates have been opened in time to avoid a fight. 那场比赛赛后，拉莫斯还口出狂言，表示自己是故意挑衅姚明的。 After the game, Ramos also talked wildly, that it is deliberately provocative Yao. “我不会让他舒服的投篮，或者舒服的做任何事情。当时他瞪了我一眼，那我就盯着他，并顶了他一脑袋。出现这些碰撞，是比赛中经常发生的事情。”拉莫斯不屑的说。 "I will not let him shoot a comfortable, or uncomfortable to do anything. At that time, he stare at me, then I stared at him, and the top of his head. These collisions, the game happen all the time. "Ramos said simply. 得知拉莫斯有可能加盟火箭的消息后，休斯敦球迷们立刻在论坛上发起了讨论。 Ramos is likely to know the news to join Rockets, Houston fans immediately launched a discussion forum. “没错，他有7尺3寸高，他看上去拥有很好的'低位移动'，而且他只有24岁。”一位ID署名Mr.E的德克萨斯州球迷说，“我不介意他当年在奇才队打不上主力，因为那个时候他太年轻了，去欧洲锻炼才是正确的选择。如今他是否能成为一名合格的NBA球员？我不敢下结论，但他确实是我们需要搜寻的目标。” "Yes, he is 7 feet 3 inches high, he seems to have a good 'low mobile', and he is only 24 years old." Mr.E signed an ID fans of Texas said, "I do not mind he was in the Wizards pick me, because at that time he is too young to train in Europe is the right choice. Now, he is qualified to become a NBA player? I am not a conclusion, but he is We need to search for. " “是的，来自波多黎各的这个即时消息称，PJ.拉莫斯在接受采访时说，他一直在与火箭进行接触，但我们还没有关于他太多的信息，只能通过youtube观看他以前的比赛视频。”另一位休城球迷表示。 "Yes, from Puerto Rico, said the instant messaging, PJ. Ramos said in an interview, he has been in contact with the rocket, but we do not have too much information about him only through his previous watch youtube video game. "Another fan said that the city break. This article Source: Netease sports Author: Inzaghi) apparentlly this guy and yao have had some beef before theres a great picture of him and yao headbutting but i don't know how to post a picture so that awsome...
