Penn State coach, AD, VP charged in child rape case

What Groogrux said.

"Sandusky admitted to showering with victim 6, admitted to hugging victim 6 while in the shower, and admitted it was wrong. Detective Schreffler advised Sandusky not to shower with any child again and Sandusky said he would not."

 

Still can't believe this was as recent as 2009:

 

I have a feeling that the more details that come out the worse this is going to look for PSU.

I really struggle to believe that detectives and attorneys and janitors and assistant coaches and graduate students and mothers of victims all knew about this stuff without him going to jail or losing his ability to be on campus AT LEAST without some sort of intentional coverup being done by people with the power to pull it off.

 

this. I really cant find any excuse to defend anyone privy to the information of child molestation and rape.

if i found out about this i dont know the amount of restraint i could summon.

reminds me of this situation on running scared.
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JoPa did not anally rape anyone, nor did he force fellation on anyone. When he was notified he told his superior, as he is supposed to do. I am sure he assumed that the matter was investigated.

Should he have followed up? Yes, that is why he was fired in a very public fashion. I have no problem with that, nor do I have a problem with him being a defendant in a civil suit. However, I am not going to let poor judgment cloud everything else the man has done.

Why isn't anyone discussing the fact that the witness apparently is keeping his job, in my opinion his handling of the situation is far worse.

 

HE SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE GA TO GO TO THE POLICE !!!

HITLER DID SOME GREAT THINGS IN GETTING GERMANY OUT OF THE DEPRESSION.

As long as he is an employee he has to answer to admininstrators, they have to protect themselves here, he will not be employed for much longer.

DD

 

Yeah, I'm sure the most powerful man on campus just told his boss and then assumed it was all gravy and investigated after that. When Sandusky continued to appear on campus I'm sure the thought never crossed Paterno's mind "hey, I wonder what came of the accusation that he was raping a kid in the shower?" With it apparently being a poorly kept secret that this was happening, I'm sure Paterno never thought twice about seeing Sandusky continuing to work with young children and continuing to use PSU facilities and his relationship with the university to advertise himself and his charity to get access to young children.

I'm sure Joe Paterno NEVER had a second thought about any of that. I'm sure he felt he had completely complied with his legal responsibilities by telling his bosses. I'm sure that Sandusky's continued access to children didn't keep Paterno up at night.

I'm so sure you are right about all of that. I'm also sure that being sure of all that makes it worse for Paterno, not better.

The man has probably done a lot of good things. None of those good things are going to repair the destroyed lives that he could have saved. Joe Paterno, a leader of men, a man of integrity had the power to be one of the heroes who STOPPED the cycle of abuse that is perpetuated when adults molest young children. Instead he told his boss and then went back to worrying about something else. You can say you aren't going to "let" that cloud what he has done, but sorry, you don't have that power. It clouds it.

Read the thread. People have discussed it. He should be fired. Everyone should be fired. I will say there is a big difference between a graduate assistant not going further than telling his superior than Joe Paterno, the freaking kid of the castle not going further.

 

I don't know that he should have told the GA to go to the police. I believe he was proper in going to his superior. The problem I have is that apparently he did not follow up with the AD.

I have a greater issue with the AD that apparently did nothing, the janitors that witnessed the rape, the GA that witnesses the rape and the officer that let the matter slide.

I do hope that Paterno feels guilt... but based on the little bit that has come out, I am not so sure he really gets the magnitude of what happened.

 

So most think all of this took place in 2002. In 1998, if not before, local police and unknown persons at the University knew of a similar allegation, and the DA at that time, Ray Gricar (who has himself disappeared mysteriously) declined to prosecute...wha? Hello? It's 2011. How many more kids did Jerry Sandusky get to in this interval?

The investigating DA for the 1998 incident is probably a corpse. Also, now I've read that Tom Corbett's office (current PA Governer, former state AG) initiated the investigation a few years ago. He is going to attend the Friday meeting of the BOT. Recently, PSU president Spanier lashed out against Corbett's budget, which significantly reduced state funding for PSU and other state-related unis. Subtext?

Campus officials are also warning that they are seeing evidence of hacker activity starting up against the PSU network, probably they will be targeted as were some of the attackers of Wikileaks.

This whole situation is only on preheat. This is the scandal of all scandals in NCAA history. Penn State is ruined, and if Anonymous gets hold of ANY emails regarding this cover up it's gonna be full boil. The Penn State "Mob" is about to crumble.

Report on the "Pimping" allegations.

See the date this was originally posted???

 

According to the new head coach the GA assistant that witnessed the rape and did not stop it will coach on saturday.

 

Apparently Westboro Baptist is staging a Gameday in State College this weekend.

Also, on Mike and Mike this morning they read some of the grand jury testimony of McQueery:

"I heard some sort of slapping noise that I thought may be sexual in nature, I looked in the shower and saw a 10 year old boy with his hands on the wall and....."



And you didn't do **** to stop it! You're a ****ing scumbag p***y who should NOT be on the sidelines coaching this team.

 

I heard Colin Cowherd say that the average Pedophile has over 100 victims, this is going to get really ugly for Penn State, to give this degenerate a comfortable setting to do his heinous acts with impunity, yeah, not going to go well at all.

And they could have locked this guy up, what I am shocked by is that some father has not shot his ass already....

DD

 

I guess the thing that disturbs me the most is that was enough for the parent?

 

Many saying the reason he hasn't been fired is the administration is afraid of what he might reveal about the cover-up if he is.

 

Exactly, he is still under their control for the time being.....he will get fired, but they want to know everything he knows before they let him go.

Damage control 101.

DD

 

There are a lot of college towns/programs out there that I fear are run exactly like this.

 

Watch for RICO charges to be filed against all the admininstrators and Paterno etc.....

They made decisions to protect the institution instead of the victims, it is just like the Catholic church.

DD

 

From reading Paterno's recent statement it sounds like he does feel guilty.

The impression I am getting from Paterno is that when the incident was reported to him he acted according to the letter of the law and what he thought was the spirit. Paterno himself probably had some level of disbelief and presumed that the matter was being looked into or resolved. Further Paterno didn't consider exactly the firestorm this would cause. He probably weighed what he considered a friendship with a longtime colleague versus allegations that he might not have felt substantiated.

Clearly he made a terrible decision what he himself is realizing but I don't get the sense that he acted out of malice to protect the program and / or his position.

Keep in mind I don't know exactly what Paterno was told. Was he told specifically that Sandusky was seen raping a boy or was he told Sandusky was seen acting inappropriately with a boy also were there more incidences that Paterno was aware of? If Paterno knew the extent of what Sandusky was doing I agree then its inexcusable that he didn't do more.

All that said I agree with Penn State firing him based on what is known.

 

Where in the Constitution, or even in the law, does it say a football coach or athletic department employee has a right to a job?