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[PEN America] Banned in the USA

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Sep 19, 2022.

  1. ThatBoyNick

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    "We're not banning sitting in chairs, just removing funding for chairs at schools. It's not like a child couldn't get access to a chair outside of school. Fake outrage nothing to see here if the left did it I'd yell something about Orwell every 3 seconds."

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  2. subtomic

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    that and students pressuring their universities not to provide a forum to right wing knobs like Ben Shapiro
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You're all flexing about your post when it has nothing to do with his question. He simply asked if these books are banned in school or everywhere.
     
  4. Amiga

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  5. Amiga

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    Educational gag orders: the problems| THE Campus Learn, Share, Connect (timeshighereducation.com)

    Educational gag orders are coming for higher education. These legislative restrictions on the freedom to read, learn and teach are now law in 13 states, including six that specifically restrict education in colleges and universities. Yet some governors who have signed higher ed gag orders into law have also spoken favourably about higher ed as a whole. They seem to think they can have it both ways: censor college faculty without undermining public higher education in their states.

    Those governors are wrong. This type of broad, hopelessly vague legislation could have destructive unintended consequences. Universities and programmes could lose their accreditation; students could lose their financial aid; early college credit in some subjects could disappear entirely. By passing educational gag orders, lawmakers are risking a lot more than they realise.


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  6. Amiga

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    Not sure to cry or laugh

     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    Keep kids dumb, send yours to private school.

    Republican meritocracy
     
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  8. Amiga

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    https://www.jpost.com/international/article-742839

    Florida’s state education department rejected two new Holocaust-focused textbooks for classroom use, while forcing at least one other textbook to alter a passage about the Hebrew Bible in order to meet state approval.

    One of this year’s rejected Holocaust textbooks was called “Modern Genocides,” and the other was an online learning course titled “History of the Holocaust.” Both were intended for high school students.

     
  9. Rocket River

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    This country has some work to do
    How to empower minorities . . . .without over empowering minority group opinions

    The ability of a small group of people to powerfully influence in this country is a real conundrum
    on the one hand . . . . minority opinion should be respected and listened too
    but
    On the other hand . .. it should not hold up progress and have a strangle hold on the public discourse

    Rocket River
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    Progress is relative, innit? I mean some of these books have been classics with very strong lessons of our culture and our past.

    In a sense, Cons are destroying educational institutions, but when you frame it like that, the left isn't innocent of that either. Things like students protesting/shouting down speakers they don't like or some schools framing music theory or mathematics as racist are pretty much the same means to their ends.

    Your first point is very important. The frustrations and emotional baggage we've carried so far muddles that line, and so far I only see escalation with paralysis and decay as a result.

    Kids are the victim in all of these as they normalize what was initially viewed as insane.
     
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  11. Rocket River

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    Exactly!
    We have literally let a group of less than 2% of humanity . . .. decide we have to change the whole english language to accommodate them
    (what are you pronouns? . .WHAT?)
    I don't want to be overly disrespectful but at what point is enough enough . . ..

    “I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?”
    Dave Chappelle
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    This becomes my question as well.

    Not using Slurs . . .cool
    Referencing your Group by appropriate chosen name. . . great
    ReArranging the english language to accommodate your feelings. . . .I'm a little reluctant on that one

    Rocket River
     
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  12. Amiga

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    Minority doesn't really have much of a voice or power in the US. In the case of book banning, the majority - Republicans - made a decision to enable the banning of "woke" books by anyone. It's a majority play at the expense of minority (black, LGBT+).
     
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  13. FranchiseBlade

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    The written word is a wisdom hotline of good things and mistakes from which to learn.

    Don't ban any of it at all. Let's leave our own wisdom hotline for future generations.
     
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  14. Rocket River

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    It's more soft power. . .social power

    Rocket River
     
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  15. No Worries

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    Next up, the Rs ban Model Ts since the blacks and the browns tend to drive older model cars.
     
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  16. FranchiseBlade

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    We know the types of governments that ramp up book banning. We know their real motivations, and we know the facade they but on their bans.

    It baffles me that anyone would support this.
     
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  17. Amiga

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    Here's the concerned parent! Daily Salinas.



    A literal fascist using ron DeSantis book banning laws to persecute her own version of thought crimes - good stuff

    @AroundTheWorld
     
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    [Daily Beast] Now the Military Memoir ‘Jarhead’ Is Getting Banned

     
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