Pelosi knew about interrogation methods, which confirms that she is a liar

this whole, "well the democrats knew too" is so pathetic and childish and I can't believe its being pursued. The dems were the minority party. we know they were b****es and didn't want to challenge anything because they didnt' want to look weak on national security.

it doesn't change anything in the grand scheme of things concerning the past administration.

 

Yes, that's correct. It also doesn't really make the Democratic party look bad. Pelosi already has low approval numbers, and merely continuing to try and make her look bad is futile and not a good strategy.

Another +1.

 

I disagree, Pelosi is one of your top shelf by position democrat...a politician really looks the part of being a liar, by explaining herself over and over, stumbling on words, looking mighty uncomfortable, being defensive in her wording...Pelosi is doing just that.

She is making herself look bad. no one else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1635icvGnjo

and this from a democratic perspective
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRyktpYXH58

and others who affirm, yes Pelosi sucks at lying...
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/11/honest-to-god-nancy-cut-it-out-already/

 

How does her being an idiot politician make her corrupt? Stupid? Misleading? a whole host of other things? Sure. Corrupt? Who knows, but I do know that these little threads trying to discredit an entire party, perpetuated by those who dug themselves a whole big enough to swallow an elephant, is quite petty and does not amount to renewed political clout or respect.

I agree, if she knew, AND if she was "cleared" to admit it (which I suspect she could have by the time she was asked and lied about it) then she should have admitted it... but lets be honest.... Signing the orders to allow it, and knowing about it without admitting it to the public, are two different things.

I guess if your goal is to demean Pelosi, perhaps this works on a certain level. Personally I don't care for her anyway, and this is just one more reason why. What I don't get is why the conservatives think that tugging at these frayed threads is somehow going to equate to some GOP resurgence.

This is not the way to regain acceptance... pointing fingers at all the little stuff. When you point your finger at someone, there are always three other fingers pointing back at you.

QFT.

 

You believe that most Democrats or Independents see her as the face of the Democratic party?

She's unpopular and was before. The Democrats still did well in the election. Her favorability could be at 0 % and the Democrats aren't going to really suffer from it as a whole.

 

I can't watch the video, but we know that the CIA either lied, or was wrong. The CIA person who claimed he broke after just 35 seconds of waterboarding as retracted his claim, and admitted that it wasn't true.

 

I believe they see she is 2 heartbeats away from being the democratic leader

This isn't about making the Democrats suffer, it's about having the right person in the right job...

 

It should be about having the right person doing the right job, but if the GOP's only strategy is to go after Pelosi, then they aren't being well served.

 

great info. but unrelated to the CIA reports, and so far the CIA has not retracted them, and in fact has recently issued a statement to affirm this fact...

 

Thank you for agreeing with me. The American people deserve better leadership...

and if you think this is a GOP only condemnation attack, think again..., this youtube commentary contains valid points against Pelosi from a Democratic based perspective...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRyktpYXH58

ouch.

 

You're such a loser! You can't even get your slander right.

It’s the Democratic Socialist Party

 

My point is there are plenty of Democrats and Republicans that have problems with Pelosi. My point is that if this is all the GOP has to use as a weapon then they are doomed. Taking Pelosi down doesn't really matter. She's already down, and she doesn't seem to be contagious.

 

I think we are operating on 2 separate planes of reference. My reference deals with trust and what is best for the American people. Your reference is based on GOP strategy.

I don't care about the GOP strategy. I care about an American strategy and doing what's right beginning now.
The American strategy should be to have more effective leaders we can trust...unfortunately Pelosi does not belong.

 

Nah, I think we have the Socialistic Democrats here as the official party...(there is a differance)

btw, I don't think there is anything so wrong about being a socialistic democrat, just as long as you are not a democratic socialist...peace out.

 

How can you say it isn't the right thing to do when you cannot even tell us what that something is?

 

mc mark, at least get your facts straight. The RNC has now branded us the Democrat Socialist Party. They don't consider us worthy of the "ic." That's their reelection strategy. Making themselves into an even more extreme, fringe party is their plan. I can't explain it. Just enjoy the ride and all the seats we'll pick up in 2010.

 

It is a long way between now and the 2010 elections. A lot can happen between now and then. I am not saying that the GOP does not need to change direction. I am merely pointing out that it is a little bit early to start planning any victory parties.

 

Oh, I know that, Refman. Steele might be fired. Moderate conservatives might take back the GOP. A scandal of gigantic proportions might overwhelm the administration. Abe Lincoln might be reincarnated and take over the Repububbl(ick) Party (double-bubble!). Any number of things might happen and bring the GOP back from the grave. One thing that won't however, and it's a thing that will backfire and just make them look plain silly, is an attempt to "rebrand" (their word, not mine) the Democratic Party as the Democrat Socialist Party. Even Pat Buchanan thinks it's silly!

 

Forget leaning left or right, Democrat or Republican, for a moment. It's time for Democrats to remove Nancy Pelosi. Over the past week or two she has shown some serious personality flaws with her obvious lying to the American public. Is this the person we want second in line from the Presidency?

Being a California liberal is NOT the issue IMO. It's her instability that scares the stuffing out of me. There are a number of Democratic U.S. Representatives -- just as liberal, just as deeply loyal to the Democratic Party and its ideals -- who would be better suited to being Speaker of the House.