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[PD] Zydrunas Ilgauskas signing up with Heat

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by the_hustler, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. JunkyardDwg

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    How many games did they play together during the Olympics? Cause unless all three have together made it through the grind of an 82 game NBA season, we have no idea how well the chemistry will be.

    How will this team, and those three in particular, react when the honeymoon is over and they start to, Heaven forbid, lose some games. It will happen at some point. Will they respond with confidence and more determination, or will they succumb to their egos and try to force their will on the team.
     
  2. Myroks rule

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    I think this would be the best starting lineup for them,

    Wade/chalmers
    Miller/?
    Lebron
    Bosh/howard
    Big Z/haslem


    That team Is really good, ino who I'm gonna be on 2k
     
  3. blink

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    they have enough chemistry between the 3 of them. when people talk about a team not having chemistry, they are usually talking about people that have no experience together and may not play well with others

    bosh/wade/lbj are all friends, played together in the olympics, smart, and plays the team game when they have to. people faulted lbj for passing it out to the wing for a 3 vs taking the game winning shot himself. lbj is willing to play the team game, even if it means he might lose.

    wade is wade, you rarely hear anything horrible about his game other than dogging it last year (which now we know why). bosh was one of the better players on that olympic team. and, out of the 3, i dislike the most because he'd act like a little baby in his last year as a raptor (now we know why).

    all in all though, i dont see the "huge ego" and "team chemistry" issues people are trying to argue. just watching them play, you dont see 'huge ego' or 'chemistry' issues. dont get twisted about the stunt they pulled with the 'decision' and youd see that ego/chemistry wont be their problem.
     
  4. SuperMarioBro

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    This. Sorry dakota, but this team is going to dominate. As much as I'm sure I'm going to eventually hate it and be sick of it, it's true.
     
  5. MrButtocks

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    Artest didn't mess up the Lakers' chemistry like everyone said.

    Antoine Walker and Jason Williams co-existed with the Wade/Shaq duo in Miami despite everyone joking that there's only one ball to go around.

    Shaq and Kobe hated each other and they were a dynasty. Malone and Payton's egos joined them they still managed to beat the Spurs and get to the finals on gimpy old legs and knees. "Failure" was a finals appearance.

    Let's be real, great talent will get you great results. When in NBA history has a team this talented not done well?
     
  6. pge71188

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    LOL, you and many others as well.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Brah,

    People said the same thing about :

    Barkley, Dream and Clyde

    and

    Pippen, Dream and Barkley

    and

    Malone, Payton, Shaq, and Kobe


    None of them won a ring together ....BRAH !

    DD
     
  8. blink

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    it's not like those teams had horrible chemistry with each other except the people that were knuckleheads aka pippen/malone. do you see lbj/bosh/wade being knuckleheads? objective answer, the 'decision' aside?

    - barkley/dream/clyde lost because barkley didnt rotate. not really an ego/chemistry problem

    - pippen/dream/barkley was a dud because of pippen, no argument there

    - lakers dream team lost because i dont know why. no chemistry issues other than malone smashing someone's wife, possibly
     
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    Signed,

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  10. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    They were all old and on their last legs. All three miami guys are in their primes.
     
  11. DonkeyMagic

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    there is one slight difference...most of those had players past their primes.

    but yes, everyone understands that a good team on 2k10 is not necessarily a good team on the nba court.

    However, no matter how much you may doubt their success, you have to recognize the scary potential.

    and if they add Vspan...it's all over.
     
  12. The_Yoyo

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    i think the chemistry issue is just with wade and lebron both play a style where the ball is heavily in their hands


    the olympics argument is stupid IMO

    they were on a team with other all-nba/all-star players everyone had to take a small step back and adjust. They won the gold-nice but they played with each other for what a two week period total? trained with each other for the weeks leading up to it?

    and in the end it was Kobe again who bailed them all out


    back in 04 when they were all on the same team they couldnt even win the silver medal with even MORE talent than what the heat will have and going up against lessor competition. Why wont anyone use this arguement as well if they use the "they won gold in 08" argument.

    actually bosh wasnt on the 04 team but Amare and Duncan were, Amare is the same as Bosh and Ducan is far superior so the argument is still valid



    saying they played well for a month in 08 and having the best players and coaches around them isnt the same of them doing great for an entire NBA season going up against tougher teams, more hostile environments


    i am not saying the heat will fail but people saying they are champs maybe saying it too prematurely.

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  13. SamFisher

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    Compare with Wade (28) James (25), and Bosh (26)

    Which one of these things is not like the other?
     
  14. MightyMog

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    I was going to bring up Kobe, who bailed them out.
     
  15. dobro1229

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    Big Z will only get you about 20 Minutes a game and he is really not much of a post player... They still need another Big who can guard guys like Dwight and Bynum. They also need a legit PG too other than Chalmers. They could run a Point forward type of set with Lebron carrying the load of ball handling and bring in a sharpshooting PG. Im surprised they havent looked at TJ Ford yet but they still have plenty of time. Mike Miller was the most important signing they made so far outside of the big 3. He will have a shooting spree all day long with those other guys.
     
  16. Qball

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    Heat will play a 7 man rotation, they don't need anyone else if Big Z signs up.

    Starters:
    Big Z
    Bosh
    James
    Wade
    Chalmers

    Bench:
    Miller
    Haslem
     
  17. RoxSqaud

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    It is....but his body is in Miami...
     
  18. Shroopy2

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    No guarantee of ultimate success. Though there's also the NBA examples of Celtics "Big 3", the Lakers adding star power in Artest (though he's not a premiere player). The '96-'98 Bulls adding Dennis Rodman to their core. The 80's Lakers having 3 Hall of Famers. The '04 Pistons had 4 All Stars in the same year.

    The Heat move is about being all of that +1. Its if that +1 will make it all combustible.

    Supporting what you said about the Olympics, Dwyane Wade came off the BENCH for the '08 team. Thats not going to happen at all for the Heat. Especially in the city and team he already won a title in.
     
  19. justtxyank

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    Another in a long line of foolish posts.

    Comparing a bunch of washed up players not working to this is crazy.

    Not to mention the examples you gave were littered with quitters and injuries.
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    I thought they'd have trouble filling out the roster with no money -- but they apparently had more money than I realized and will do just fine with the minimum wage guys too. This team will be very tough right away.
     

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