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Payroll flexibility is overrated

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by W22_STREAK, Jul 13, 2014.

  1. W22_STREAK

    W22_STREAK Member

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    Payroll flexibility is excellent, but only in moderate doses. And it needs to be eliminated when you are reaching or approaching the talent level for a championship. You have your boom and bust cycles, and when the bust comes, then payroll flexibility is great. But in your boom period, you need to go all-in. Picks, capspace, luxury tax levels, should not have much value placed upon them, and you cannot allow "payroll flexibility" to hinder your financial commitment to a championship. Money wins championships, not your POTENTIAL ability to spend.
     
  2. DudeWah

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    Unfortunately when there is a salary cap, limiting your potential to spend locks you in to being precluded from signing anyone worthwhile.

    Or, along similar lines, you can spend tons of money and build a terrible team by not having the flexibility to pull off trades if necessary.

    Ask the New York Knicks and Brooklyn Nets how far overspending has gotten them in the past decade.
     
  3. IBTL

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    payroll flexibility will feel pretty damn nice if it causes us to get a bad ass 3rd piece.

    We paid the price to be here with options (to sign and get a 3rd star). This is what being flexible costs.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    If we signed Parsons we would have had 9m left to go before the Lux tax...that is enough for Milsap....or someone like that.

    And that would have made us a championship contender.

    Now we are much worse...yeah for cap space......

    Can't wait for Cap space to win it's first game.

    DD
     
  5. Aleron

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    We're not at championship level and Parsons' contract might well be the worst in the entire nba, which would have greatly hindered us from ever getting there.
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    I mean...there has to be some kind of award at the end of the year for it!!
     
  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Tell that to Orlando when then lost Dwight because they were capped out by dumb signing by Otis Smith.
     
  8. cheke64

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    Cap city
     
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    Don't worry, we will soon be hearing from our forum experts about how awesome Morey is for conserving our flexibility. Then we will have half the forum dreaming about KD/KLove/whatever superstar possibly becoming a Rocket next offseason, or maybe 2016.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  10. Aleron

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    That's not how the salary cap works
     
  11. IBTL

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    classic. I like it.. has a nice ring to it. rep
     
  12. dmoneybangbang

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    We struck out, the only smart thing to do is remain flexible at this point. We maybe able to make a good mid season trade and or wait until next offseason. Why overspend on role players.
     
  13. LosPollosHermanos

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    cheke...my man. Props on sticking to your guns, there were only a few of us that forecasted this as the cult of Morey came down on us with fire.
     
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    Sacrememto and detroit can tell u all about the success of spending at every opportunity.
     
  15. ElPigto

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    See this is the same bull**** I expect to hear from many people. Remain flexible, remain flexible for what? Please give me all the magical scenarios where GMs are going to gift wrap good talent for our "assets". It stuns me that you people are okay with throwing away another year of Harden/Howard's career to remain flexible.

    I'm not saying overpay for role players, but we do have to build a team here. We can't rely on all of our young players to pan out. We also can't just wait for them. We are ready to win now, why do you all want to keep throwing that away?
     
  16. Jayzers_100

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    Lol it's interesting how his contract went from best to worst in only a month!
     
  17. lkrockets

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    It's abundantly clear what the FO did - they said our objective is to win a championship. Then they said, what creates better odds of winning a championship - a core of Parsons/DH12/Mr.Stripper with no capacity to add another big piece, or an incomplete core of DH12/Mr.S and an ability to take a run at other guys. They decided the latter, which is completely reasonable. The die was cast when they let Parsons become an RFA, and with Fegan/DH12 in the picture, there are obviously nuances there that we don't appreciate from outside the FO.

    I can't help but think that people who are freaking out about the last step - not matching the Parsons contract - either (1) disfavor the championship-or-bust model in favor of the get-as-far-as-we-can model or (2) just blatantly don't understand the way the salary cap works. There is no secret sauce you can use to sign max-level guys once you have 50-60 mm in salary committed to 3 players. It can't happen, mathematically. So if you buy into championship-or-bust, you either (A) have to believe that Parsons/DH12/Mr.MakesItRain with little flexibility to add complementary (not complImentary for *****'s sake) pieces a la the Spurs is championship stuff or (B) have beef with algebra, or something.
     
  18. sirbaihu

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    Yeah, after how it's gone so far this offseason just count on getting Milsap "or someone like that."
     
  19. do work son

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    not matching parsons wasn't solely a cap flexibility move.

    they ultimately thought tying all your money into harden howard and parsons, with little to fill in your roster wasn't a championship team. they didn't want to risk not being able to actually field a championship team, because they signed chandler parsons long term.
     
  20. houactuar

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    Wasting money on a max contract for a role player is overrated on this forum.
     

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