Paul Shirley....Stupid

Deep insight from a guy who uses adult friend dinder....

 

Its one thing to ask "Can the people of haiti do more to better themselfs after this?" Its another thing to say people should wear a condom because there poor. This was just kicking a person when there down.

 

What's really sad is I can't tell if he's being sarcastic, though I don't think he is.

 

sure the guy might sound insensitive and uncompassionate, but there's still some truth to what he said, and frankly sometime it hurts.

 

This is a REALLY hard topic because while I would tend to agree on some of his points I am just not educated enough on the historical issues with the Haitians and their struggles to fully agree or disagree with him. What I do know is the horrific images I've seen after the earthquake thus I have donated already and plan to continue to donate what I can regardless of Haiti's political or social economic troubles assuming my money will go to help the people that truly needs it.

Now my really issue is Shirley getting canned by ESPN because while his comments are insensitive and crude that was his opinion and not in any way representing ESPN. Last I checked freedom of speech was a freedom we possessed so he should have kept his part time gig.

 

Last I checked freedom of speech meant that the government couldn't do anything to prevent you from speaking. ESPN (or any other company) has every right to fire an employee that tries to turn a sports blog into a political platform and produces writing that is not consistent with the companies desired stance and image.

 

The First Amendment says "CONGRESS shall make no LAW," not "ESPN shall make no BYLAW" abridging the freedom of speech. Shirley has no more reason to cry Bill of Rights than a forum member banned for posting Greg Oden's schmackel.

I also don't think that Haitians are responsible for the horrific strings of governments imposed on them (the Duvaliers, Cedras and others). Nor are the responsible for foreign meddling in their country: the US colonized Haiti for decades and extracted almost half of their gross domestic product. This was during a time when Smedley Butler, two-time recipient of the Medal of Honor and veteran of marine occupations in Latin America, said that "war is a racket" on behalf of American business titans. Later during the Cold War the US supported their dictators--and gave "Baby Doc" a nice retirement package in Southern France, which he subsequently squandered. It also leveraged their domestic policy, essentially forcing them to import American produce (esp. sugar from FL) and pricing out their farmers. Port-au-Prince swelled with destitute immigrants from the ravished contryside.

I'm not anti-American or anything but it's well documented that PAST American leaderships had a hand in making Haiti far and away the poorest country in the Hemisphere.

Except for the crooked elites in the Petionville suburb who lord over the country, almsot nobody in that country has in recent years had a remote chance to escape poverty, unless they get out. For someone as ignorant as Shirley to say those things, and for his defenders to say, "I agree with him which makes me special and everyone else an idiot," is ... well, in questionable taste.

 

Well I thought FlipCollective.com was not just a sports blog? His writing was completely independent and didn't break any laws or connect ESPN in anyway to Shirley. The dude statements/ideas where probably not the smartest to put online but blogs are opioion so what do they expect and consider it wasn't on their website or anything connected to their site. Just think it was to harsh and seems obivously like a PR issue they rather just dust under the rug and that bugs me.

 

I know freedom of speech is a governmental right not something a private entity needs to follow which is evident by Shirley's dismissal...what bothers me is that his opinion was a reason for his firing when it had NO connection to ESPN and obviously didn't represent them. Again don't know enough about Haiti and their struggle to agree or disagree only what I see on TV but it was just one guys view point on a blog.

 

skimmed the article but i agree.... with the money being sent down there, do it right the second time around. the US just throws money at countries like haiti every year as a bandaid without actually fixing anything (and im not even saying the US should be responsible for fixing anything but itself)

 

i dont know about you but my sarcasm meter went off the charts, especially after his last line

 

For those who think he has a point, this is basically what he is saying:

The world should think twice in helping the Haitian people who got an earthquake they had no control of BECAUSE THEY ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO TOLERATE A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT.

 

somewhere muddled in his fallible argument is a valid point. the world is helping haiti right now and the efforts shouldnt be in vain. if there were ever a time for haiti to make a change, it would be now.

but i guess the world should drop millions/billions of dollars into a group of people only to have them go back to where they were.

 

Puerto Ricans are already US citizens and can come to the mainland as they please.

 

Incredible insight from the man who looked at Greg Oden's penis and then looked at his own.

 

Perhaps this should be in the D&D, from how it's looking.

 

Do you live in the United States, Europe or any place else that has a good government in place? Posts like these are just ignorant. Do you think the average Haitian wants to live in a country with a corrupt government, no facilities and a huge population problem? You act like living in an impoverished country was a choice, and these Haitians "deserve" to get whats coming to them as punishment for letting their government become corrupted.

Newsflash: these poor people have no choice, they were born in a country that's already corrupt and impoverished. They can't go around saying **** like asking for change or whatever, most of the people down there have lost all hope and besides, they'd probably be shot and tortured by the president's goons. If you want the whole Haitian country be refused aid and the entire population to suffer and die because their president is corrupt and evil, then its your opinion, but IMHO you're also an idiot.

 

What an utter and complete racist idiot. Deserves to be unemployed.

 

To an employer, you don't have freedom of speech. You can get fired for saying anything they don't like and there's nothing you can do about it. They have to right to hire and fire anyone they want as long as it's not for race, sex, age, or religion