As i've mentioned on my post.. He is not exactly what our team should be going for given our young core. And i know what he's suffering from since i have him on a couple of my fantasy teams and i've been trying to trade him. :grin:
It's this year and next. It doesn't eat into 2014 and beyond where Morey has his eye on cap room. If a third team can garner the Rockets a stop gap PG. It's a risk worth taking if they only give up Lin, 2Pat, and White. Hypothetically, a Rockets - LAL - Bucks trade gives them this roster 2012-13 Udrih *expiring contract* - Douglas - Machado Harden - Dunleavy *expiring contract* Parsons - Jones Gasol - Morris Asik - Motiejunas Would having Gasol on the roster make it easier to sign Llull? 2013-14 Llull Harden Parsons - Jones Gasol *expiring contract* - Morris Asik - Motiejunas
It seems that Llull is content on never coming to the NBA. He had the opportunity this year to decide and chose to sign a long-term deal (not sure why unless he doesn't think he'll be that good in the pro-league. ) I think you make a move like this to put you over the edge and while Gasol might get us in the playoffs he won't put us over...Harden-Asik-Parsons (and possibly Lin) are all still up and comers and will make mistakes due to lack of experience, especially in the playoffs. My thinking is it will take this team at least 2 years of playing with one another before they can be viewed as serious contenders (assuming we get another star or one of our own develop into a star) and then it would make sense to go for a Gasol- type player. This team is exciting to watch because of upside but they need some time to gel--Morey probably wants another young piece at pf and focus on making this team a contender--but its still minimum 3 seasons out
There was no chance of Llull coming over this year because of his huge buyout. The buyout amount in his new contract won't be an obstacle if the Rockets want him next year.
Zach Lowe very high on Pau Gasol http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id...-ellis-jordan-crawford-nba-all-chuckers-squad
That depends on who the Rockets give up. If the plan is to sign a superstar in free agency in 2 or 3 yrs time, then the Rockets need to win. The Rockets need to present themselves as a an attractive destination.The combination of improving young players and playoffs will achieve that. A free agent superstar will want to win now but will also look to see if that team has a future.
When this guy is finally traded, Rockets or not, I have a feeling he's going to play much, much better, and make the Lakers look dumb for letting him go. This guy has constantly taken the blame for the Lakers faults, and been subject to trade rumours(and near misses) for years now. If and when he does get moved, he will finally be able to let out a big sigh of relief, and play within a team structure that allows him to be who he is. I would love for the Rockets to steal Pau away from the Lakers, but Im realistic that they are going to want too much, and ultimately other teams have better assets to offer them and put that team in a win-now scenario that it doesn't necessarily put the Rockets in. Whatever happens, Pau deserves better than to go down as the Lakers whiping boy.
He is 32 and on decline street on gear 5. In 2 years he will be 34 going on 35 and thats when most of our young core will be starting to hit their straps.
If the Rockets aquire Gasol, they wont have the cap space to go after a secondary max contract player unless Lin and Asik are both moved beforehand. There is a possibility of Gasol re-signing with Houston after his contract is up for less, but you basing that on alot of assumptions. If you aquire Gasol this year, then you have to assume that him and Harden are your core star players for this season and next. Any other star level player signing would be difficult to make.
Gasol would be a stop-gap to help the Rockets become battle-hardened, playoff-tested. Pau's contract expires a year earlier than Lin or Asik's. Cap room for a star next year won't matter. 2014 is next big free agency crop.
Why do we need a stopgap? It just wastes Jones/D-Mo's rookie contracts by sapping them of any minutes they might get. If a guy doesn't figure into our long term plans, then he doesn't need to be getting starter's minutes, IMO.
(Which is why we need to get rid of Patterson ASAP by the way... no way is he a long term starter for the Rockets.)
I agree here, but benching him now would completely destroy his value come February. He needs to be producing moderately effective, but I agree the best thing for him and the team is to move him to a team that could really use him well with the things that he can do for a playoff team. I do like 2Pat alot, but I do realize that he isn't a long term star player for this team.
Yeah, I agree. Gasol isn't that good or young enough to warrant giving up assests (and more importantly PT) for. Plus, I'd love to see Buss have to pay a crippling lux tax. As much as I can't wait to see Patterson gone, it be nice to get at least an equal value returning (preferably in the form of a pick). I have a feeling we'll be getting a lowry-type player (moneyball backup pg who will take over for lin later) for 2Pat.
They aren't getting any minutes now anyway. A Pau trade wouldn't change their current situations since it's Morris, Aldrich, and Smith who they need to win minutes from. Again a Pau trade is a big picture move as it helps to develop the core young guys the right way. Learn to win with quality minutes and not force feed extended minutes where they only achieve frustrated play. That's real development.
It has to be a lot, is the problem. Gasol's contract was created under the old CBA when salary cap penalties didn't matter much to rich owners and $19 million a year was no problem to a contending team. These days, $19 million can represent a LOT of talent you're compensating under the new CBA. For a team to "not give up much" for Gasol, you'd pretty much have to look for older, pre-CBA contracts that are as bad as his. Andris Biedrins' contract for the Warriors would be a great example. That guy makes $9 million this year and has a player option for $9 million next season, and comes off the bench to log 10 minutes a game and give the Warriors half a point and a few rebounds. Golden State thought he was their center of the future, turns out he wasn't. That is a bad, bad contract. And the Rockets simply don't have any bad contracts on their own books to make Gasol a steal. Morey and Alexander run a good business and don't pay good money to bad players, simple as that. In a two team trade scenario, they'd therefore have to gut their nucleus to rent him and his paltry production for two seasons. Even if a third team with some awful contracts of their own got involved--which is just about the only way a deal for the worst Gasol could ever happen--it would mean the addition of their first truly terrible contract that would limit the Rockets' cap flexibility for years. It's a bad idea, and my suggestion to Lakers fans on this board who are trying to float it would be to just continue to mull it over in a fantasy sense on the sites for your own teams. It's not as though Daryl Morey will somehow read your bad idea on this web site, hit himself on the head with a hammer enough times to make sure he's stupid enough to do it, and then pull the trigger on taking another bad contract off your books and onto the Rockets'. Live with your mistakes. Feel that new CBA power coursing through your veins. These aren't the Philadelphia Rockets, and these suggestions that Houston is just another dumping ground for broken-down Lakers bigs is more than a little insulting.
We've already covered this in this thread. The Rockets have cap space. It would only take Lin, Cook, and Smith for the salaries to work. The Rockets cap room is their greatest asset in any potential big deal with the Lakers.
The worst thing is how people are so disillusioned by dislike for Jeremy Lin, or alternately, affection for him at the expense of the Rockets that they think Daryl Morey is twiddling his thumbs and looking at the calendar, just waiting for midnight of December 15th to trade Jeremy Lin for Pau Gasol, of all people.
