Yes it does. I'd like to know where he fits in the future of this team. Where does he fit in the rotation? Should he be used in a trade? He was in the 90-94 range in prior years... what has happened since? Is he working on his other pitches or is he losing velocity?
im not too worried about him losing some velocity. he was probably advised to turn it down with his sort of awkward delivery. his fastball is fine 90-91 because of the deception and movement... derek lee couldnt hit it today at all. (wasnt watching closely for everyone else)
take that velocity argument to greg maddux. patton's delivery is pretty free and easy without much effort. he can dial it up when he wants to. go watch his highschool tapes and come back to me and tell me you'd rather have his old delivery. if you're too lazy to go look it up, it was a max effort delivery with 89-91 velocity...he's getting the same velocity now with less effort.
What argument are you referring to? You mean the question I asked? As for being lazy... Why such language?
Yeah, since Greg Maddux can pitch at lower velocities, everyone else should be able to also. If he can be a hall of famer, everyone can!
No one's saying Patton should be the next Greg Maddux. Granted, I'm a big fan of any pitcher that's got a 98 mph fastball. I don't even care how much control he has, if he's got a 98 mph fastball, he'll get everyone out.
Well of course not. But using Greg Maddux, one of the greatest & smartest pitchers in history, as an example is just silly. You could just as easily use Jason Jennings as an example of what happens when your velocity goes down. What Maddux can or can't do is completely irrelevant to whether or not Troy Patton can be successful having lost 3-5 mph on his fastball.
Yes, and a silly example too. If Patton suddenly lost one arm, I wouldn't point to the one-armed pitcher from the 80's (?) and say "see, no big deal. he did it!" Troy Patton's loss of velocity is a potential concern, regardless of whether or not Greg Maddux was able to pitch with lower velocity or not. So what exactly is Maddux an example of? Did we really need an example of a pitcher that pitches 90 and is successful? There are dozens of those in the majors.
is the sound messed up for you too? thought it was just me. watching on WGN cubs announcers are kind of annoying.
Lets see first how Patton finishes this year in which he's pitched more innings than he ever has (and is now 2/2 for quality starts), and then how strongly he's able to come back next year. Frankly, nobody here has seen Patton pitch all that much to know how much he had vs. how much he has now... and how his location has improved/faltered based on these changes. Roy Oswalt is a pretty good example of somebody who realized that he doesn't have to throw 96 mph for every fastball to be ultra effective... and Roy didn't fully realize that till around 2005.
