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Patterson is SOFT

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JR, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. shortfuse3

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    It's so funny how our PFs cant rebound. Patterson is soft on the glass (and on offense), and Morris has Trex arms. Maybe it's because they are both 6'9 and under?
     
  2. jbasket

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    You think that Morey is only looking for signing a FA in the offseason? No, if we as fans have learned anything, it is that Morey is nearly always looking to trade.
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    Patterson can use some improvement on the boards, as the coaches have told him. However:

    1. While his personal rebound rate (and that of HOU's PFs in general) have been low, the team has rebounded pretty well with him on the court. They are actually one of the very top teams on defensive boards, so he is at least blocking out when he didn't grab the ball himself. The team has not been good on the offensive board, but that's probably by design with their "spread the court" play and a need to run back to improve transition D.

    2. Also, having a low rebounding # is different than being soft. Rasheed Wallace has had some Patterson-like rebounding years througout his career and he is not soft-- in fact, an excellent defender. Cliff Robinson's rebounding numbers are also consistently poor and he was also a plus defender and not a "soft" guy. On the other hand, Kris Humphries is an excellent rebounder and I don't think many consider him a tough guy.
     
  4. pippendagimp

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    given the fact we already have max capspace, one star already in harden, and an already competitive team, it's not a given that DM will need to trade players out in order to get the 2nd star. and it's surely no given that any of lin/asik/parsons would need to be included in a possible deal. what is a given though is that any of morris/smith/jones/DMo could make patterson expendable by the summer.
     
  5. jbasket

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    If we make a trade for a star, how would we balance the trade without giving lin/asik/parsons? The opposing team would laugh at us.

    I just want this to be clear: PPat is not even my favorite Rockets player (heck, he might not even by in my top 3). Also, I like Jones a lot as a future player, the most out of all of our roookies. He has major talent. He has the talent to be better than PPat, but it will take some time.
     
  6. pippendagimp

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    didn't miami get lebron for a few crappy draft picks? :grin:
     
  7. jbasket

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    good point. But, if I am thinking correctly, we don't have many picks, crappy or good. Therefore, point nullified ;)
     
  8. Easy

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    23rd if you look at rebounding percentage, rather than raw number. But we are also #1 in defensive rebounding percentage.

    All in all, rebounding is not our concern because our offense is a lot better than our defense. So offensive rebounding is not that important.

    The fact is, shooting (opening up the lane for Harden and Lin) and defense is the most important aspects we need from our PFs. And both Patterson and Morris are quite decent in those regards.
     
  9. Easy

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    True. But I think Patterson's soft reputation also comes from his lack of foul shots. He does seem to instinctively avoid contact.
     
  10. pippendagimp

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    we have all our own picks after this year...point remains the same.
     
  11. jbasket

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    Yea... true. Good point. I'll give you that one.
     
  12. jbasket

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    Bumping this thread: Ppat had another good game, decent shooting overall, good rotational defence, decent rebounding. He missed a box out in the 4th and then fouled the opposing player, and on the free-throw line jumper, he faded. But all in all, a decent game, definitely showing toughness.
     
  13. daywalker02

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    definitely... he is tougher than most think
    this thread should apply to Gasol
     
  14. Mr2Hos

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    still soft. he should just be backup sf since he wants to launch 3's and long 2's and is allergic to rebounds
     
  15. jbasket

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    Shotting 37% from threes is not launching. It is efficiency. 6 rebounds in bench minutes is not bad; he is definitely not allergic.
     
  16. daywalker02

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    He is just not close to a star player... he is average, at his best above average
     
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    Another solid game from Patterson. Very efficient mid range shots. My only problem was that he launched a couple of threes from areas that hes not comfortable in and missed, but was good overall. Had some good offensive rebounds but failed to box out some others. Keep him in his role, he is excelling in it. Morris provides something different and is better with the starters, but Patterson should keep getting his minutes.
     
  18. daywalker02

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    Patterson talked about Scola's scoop shoot.. did not implement it well enough, way to go!
     
  19. jbasket

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    If we get an all star PF, PPat would be GREAT off the bench. He would be a huge addition: look what he is already doing with his bench role. Still think he is a starter in this league.
     
  20. daywalker02

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    that's why I am excited about TJones.... guys bring similar game, but has better physical tools less experience though
    is more explosive, faster
     

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