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Patriot Act to be possibly expanded

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rhadamanthus, Jun 9, 2005.

  1. tigermission1

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    That's a good point, but that's exactly what should never happen in the USA: that is the military becoming part of the ruling elite. If it does, then the military becomes effectively a tool by which the civilian leaders can oppress the citizens. This is pretty much what has happened in dictatorships all over the world: Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan, as well as others.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Not militarily the citizens couldn't take out the U.S. military. But there is a coarse that the people could do, which would cost as many lives, quite possibly, but would actually be effective. We would need to use the Ghandi method.

    If the citizens simply all refused to work, and went on strike the whole nation would stop. Initially people might be imprisoned, starved, beaten, killed etc. That part wouldn't change from a war, but in the end the country needs its citizens to work. In reality any occupied nation prepared to sacrifice enough could use the same tactics.

    Technically speaking a military isn't even really needed.
     
  3. SWTsig

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    i really want to see someone logically refute this, because i don't think it's possible.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    attempts to refute it may include these phrases...

    9/11 Changed the way(everything)...

    Our govt. is only trying to protect us.

    Do you really think you have more information about what is needed than the govt. does?

    Why should you be worried about the govt. looking at your library books unless you have something to hide?
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    I don't think any of those lines of thinking do refute Tiger's post, but they are the kinds I seem to see a lot of.
     
  5. Sishir Chang

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    Saddly it might not be that far off. Just read some of the other threads where posters are going on and on about how criticizing our military and their civillian leadership for lapses of discipline and policies that sanction torture is aiding the enemy.

    Given the paranoia, the consolidation of power in the hands of a party with a narrow majority, the willingness of Congressional leadership to defer to the executive branch and and widespread accusations that any criticism of the Admin. is treasonous its not going to take much for this country to voluntary become a police state.
     

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