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Patrick Beverley out with fractured hand (UPDATE: Bev out 4-6 weeks)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 21, 2013.

  1. bws

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    This is a load of crap. Lin has already proven himself numerous times throughout the young season. Where were you in those games? Of course he's going to make mistakes. But he's put up the numbers already starting and coming off of the bench to show what he can do. He'll have to work himself back into basketball shape before he gets into a groove and we don't know whether his body will cooperate or not consistently. So far Harden is up and down due to injuries and Harden has had worse games than Lin. What you personally think isn't supported by what Lin has done for the Rockets. Forget Linsanity, what he has done since the ASB of last season and this season pre-injury shows already what he's capable of.
     
  2. KlutchQT

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    Sorry for posting an update in this Jeremy Lin thead. LOL.
     
  3. ThisVoice

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    I assume you are also one of his fans considering you are rooting for the Rockets.
     
  4. Fighton

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    funny, 'cause i could've swore that lin played for the rockets last year for 82 games?

    you know what you have in him over that 82 game period - as PART OF THE TEAM. who cares about linsanity - that was a different situation, different system, different coach. you'd be an idiot to expect linsanity RIGHT NOW on a different team, different players around him, different coach, etc. who cares about linsanity. look at his 82 games last year, from nov to apr. from coming back from injury to fully healthy, and decide for yourself whether or not what you saw was enough to convince you whether he can be a part of this team. and earlier this season when he was healthy, playing while harden was out and chandler was in a slump. can he produce?

    "No more excuses about his injury, or "well he did good to start the season, look at his stats" none of that, he needs to show he can lead this team, and that he's capable of helping this team win a championship." so you throw away stats? um so without stats how exactly is he supposed to show he can help this team win a championship.

    so let me get this straight - you'd rather discount a 82 game season, a 20 game season so far that he has played in, and rely on your belief that linsanity two years ago was a fluke and that he still needs to prove himself? this is exactly what people talk about when they say that lin will always need to constantly prove himself, and no matter what he does, there will always be people that discount his abilities. does he need to show more? of course - it's only his second full season starting. but to discount what he did last year, considering the circumstances, and this year so far, and to say "nah linsanity was a fluke and his stats so far this year doesn't mean anything" even though linsanity has nothing to do with this rockets team, is just.... :rolleyes:

    and let me ask you, you think a 20 game season in which bev started has allowed him to prove himself to a be a starting PG for this team? ok i'll even throw in playoffs last year where he was significantly outplayed by reggie jackson (no not mr. october but the backup pg for OKC). so has bev convinced you yet and proven enough to be help this team win?

    and as for 20/7, yeah i have no doubt he can average 20/7 IF he has the green light to take 25 shots a game with a usage rate of almost 30%, 'cause that's what harden is given the chance to do. you really think lin will be asked to do this?
     
  5. bws

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    Bev will get his surgery and get onto the therapy and rehab. If all goes well, best scenario, one month's time and he's back playing. Will miss him.
     
  6. GoRox2013

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    In all due respect, the whining has to stop. I've never made excuses for Bev. So with Bev now hurt, the excuses for Lin cant fly anymore. Either Lin produces or he doesn't. By the standards given by his own fans, we should be a faFAR better team with Jeremy Lin playing a bigger role. All that the "coach is bias against Lin" crap doesn't apply any longer. If Lin's really as good as his fans think he is, we should see an immediate impact. Lin DEFINITELY has something to prove or his azz won't be playin here too much longer. We will learn a lot in the upcoming weeks
     
  7. bws

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    Are you Truth1 by another name? Did you read the responses you got? You're just repeating the same drivel. Lin starting doesn't take away a missing PG in Beverley or fix woes of the 2nd unit or fix flaws in our defense so I don't think anyone is expecting miracles or to put such ridiculous expectations on Lin. All we want to see is him getting back to health and form and injury free and hopefully the team getting healthier and then gelling and improve going into the playoffs (providing most of the team stays as it is).
     
  8. DOLPHIN2k2

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    Wasn't Bev hurt the beginning of this year and Lin played pretty well with the starters? So lets forget that stretch and lets try again and see if he fails this time so your belief that his is a role player can be confirmed?
     
  9. roadstone

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    Harden is out tonight again.
     
  10. KlutchQT

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    I don't think the use of the term "role player" is generally intended as an insult, FWIW. Everybody outside of Harden & D12 is routinely referred to as a role player -- fairly, I think.
     
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    I do believe you are right that Jeremy Lin started and played all 82 games for the playoff bound Houston Rockets last year. I also believe our stats GM said his analysis shows J-Lin was the 3rd most responsible for winning last year. Harden being #1, Asik who is now in the dog house being #2, and Lin #3. Parsons #4 or a 3a tied with Lin. And if the Rockets didn't have any of those 4 players we would have missed the playoffs for the 4th year in a row.

    While Bev has done nothing and has played less than 1 season in the NBA. Most of the time he was ineffective on Offense and on Defense he was inconsistent. One game he would give you zilch on offense but be amazing on D while the next game he would give you zilch on offense and also stink up the joint on D.
     
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    If the Rockets want Bev back as the starting PG it'll take a month time. If he needs to handle the ball and be a real PG. But then again he hasn't ever been a real PG on this team. Harden plays PG duties when Bev is playing.

    But he can come back sooner to be a defensive specialist for a change of pace defensive guy with a wrap around his hand.

    Bev is a good guy.

    Speedy recovery. I expect to see him back in 3 weeks playing very limited time as a defensive specialist. That is his best role in my opinion regardless if he is healthy or injured.
     
  13. SugarLandDream8

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    Starters are not "role players". They may not be stars but they are generally not referred to as role players.

    No one would classify Parsons as a "role player". He's the captain and starting SF for the Rockets.
     
  14. ccrystal99

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    It looks like some Rockets fans want to push Jeremy to the corner to show up, on the first game returning from an injury. All I want to say is, fine, be it, I will pray for his health and strength, and I do pray for Patrick too!
     
  15. ccrystal99

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    By the way, does anyone know for sure who is starting? Lin or Brook? You never know with surprise after surprise :)
     
  16. mclawson

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    Old Man Rock disagrees.
     
  17. SugarLandDream8

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    Rockets fans want the team to win games. Anyone "pushing" Lin are just Lin-haters.

    If anything with Harden out, most real basketball fans would be looking at our 2nd superstar, Howard, to step up.

    It's like when Yao was hurt, people expected Tmac to step up. When Tmac was hurt they expected Yao to step up. And the other would get the blame if they did not.

    No one was expecting Chuck Hayes or even a Scola to compensate for the loss of a superstar.

    Now it is responsible for fans to expect Lin to play to Bev's level but then again that wasn't a high threshold. Bev basically gave you nothing on Offense since he entered the NBA and on Defense he was inconsistent.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    I would assume for Lin's first game back he would be off the bench to make sure he is actually ready to play.
     
  19. Type Raba

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    so you give him a whole month? :rolleyes: lol he's in a no win situation. if he sucks, then one month is enough to prove that. if he's great, then it's only a month and bev returns as a starter.... i literally see no way mchale reverses his decision and starts lin, no way.....
     
  20. GoRox2013

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    This is the crap we been reading from LOF on a daily basis:

    :rolleyes:

    If all this is true, according to the above statements, Lin should automatically make this team better. No more excuses
     

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