Yeah he was, but if he did that now i'm sure most of the fans will be calling for his head. In their case Dwight got the ball too less, 11/11 that's crazy he only got 11 shots. When we made our run though he would always immediately pass out of the double team, and their guys were just missing open shots. It reminds me of all the times Yao would have a night like that and only get 10 or something shots. I have no problem if a PG realizes he has the advantage and attacks. That's smart play, but Martin had just scored about 15 points to get us back in the game. I don't understand why he's not touching the ball when we are down 9 points in the fourth.
Parker would tell you that Pops would kill him for that to. Parker wouldn't ignore Duncan in the post after he's scored 10 or so points and trying to come back and chuck up a 3...he used to do this but he's learned well. Popovich always talks about how changing how Parker played. Parker IS a scoring PG, but he doesn't just ignore his teammates like Brooks did last night.
Fans are calling for his head now... They want the old Nelson because he was able to feed the ball better to Dwight. Dwight isn't that great of a offensive threat as people believe. He's a beast... Don't get me wrong but he isn't no hakeem or a Shaq. I don't think anyone has a problem with a PG that attacks and takes advantage of a team. Martin needs the ball. Plain and simply. Brooks needs to make sure he gets the ball in his hands and that will come. It was their first game together and I was very upset with Brooks. But I have to remember this is their first game playing together as starters. It's up to the coaching staff to make this happen.
Are you saying that Olajuwon and Yao have comparable mobility and finesse? You have the bad habit of constantly comparing apples to oranges.
Yeah, you Good Centers can occasionally take that Double team...hell superstar players can handle doubles on occasion and Dwight every time immediately passed out without barely dribbling. Sometimes he's just too passive. I don't have a problem with AB attacking, but I feel the same. Martin needs the ball. Also yes blame goes to the coach also because we went so long without Martin not getting the ball. I WOULD also blame Martin for not demanding the ball...but he's new to the team, coming here and demanding the ball would ruffle some feathers. But I just think of other elite PGs like Billups. He wouldn't need to be told "He's hot, you need to give him the ball." he'd just know immediately. That's what I want from Brooks, and I feel chemistry doesn't have much to do to understand game situations like last night. We'll see.
Thank you. Funny you say that, because I think the same thing when I read all this K-Mart and AB hating going on in this forum. And I agree people need to watch the second half again.....more particularly the 3rd Q. And about that check....I have wondered about it before. I have visited the site for years, but just created an account. How much is "small?" and what benefits does a contributing member have over a regular member?
Dwight cries too damn much. He needs to stop blaming SVG for everything and man up. Franchise players man up... Martin has to fit in and not step on anyone's toes. I think things will change. It just takes time. Coach, AB, and Martin need to work together. One thing I wanted to touch on that you said. You have to remember Billups is a lot older than Brooks. Billups is truly an awesome PG but it took him years to get where he is at now. He's very seasoned and he knows the game. Will Brooks be like Billups? Probably not because he is smaller but I think Brooks still has a lot to learn. Brooks hasn't hit his ceiling yet. The best PG's only get better. Brooks has only been a starter now for one year. Give him time...
How is it changing the topic? When you start referencing Olajuwon and his entry passers, you're making the comparison. I'm merely pointing out that your comparisons are illogical. So in your scenario, either Martin, Ariza, or Scola will be making the entry pass. I don't think Ariza or Scola would be efficient b/c they lack the mobility/ball handling skills to attack the basket if Yao is fronted. So that leaves Martin. Assuming Martin proves himself unable to pass, what roster changes (if any) would you then make?
Let's hope for all our sakes that Brooks develop to be more like Parker/Billups rather than AI/Nate. Brooks is a shoot first point guard. Accept it. He's never going to be like Chris Paul or Jason Kidd. Let's just hope he becomes an effective shoot first point guard.
Well that's another thing, i've never said to get rid of Brooks or trade him (although I wouldn't mind trading him to Toronto for Bosh...) I've supported the guy but when he has nights like this I just shake my head. Billups is amazing, and he took a while to really understand. And Brooks can never be Billups because Billups is just a different type of guy. He's a great defender and he's big. He needs to be more like a Tony Parker though, when he's playing against slow PGs like Nash, Fisher, and lol even Billups(who has problems now with speedier PGs) I just want him to learn to ride the hot guy.
Agreed, but which hot guy was that? The one that is shooting about 31% since the trade, or the one hitting 5 of 7 shots in the 3rd quarter after going 0-7 in the first half? Look, it will come with time, as all trust does. DD
The biggest benefit, of course, is supporting Clutch and the site, so it sticks around, but aside from that, the main benefit is being able to edit, which I use all the time (I'm a terrible speller) Getting respect from the rest of the contributing members for supporting ClutchFans is a side benefit, but certainly a personal choice. Some have been here for years and never contributed, which I've never understood. There may be other stuff I'm forgetting, but being able to edit is huge, IMO. An amount? Clutch appreciates anything. $10 bucks, $20 bucks? Whatever you can afford. Just know that it might take a while for Clutch to bump you up, as he has a "real life" outside of the BBS that's very busy. Send him an e-mail if you contribute and don't see a change in a week or two. There's a link at the bottom of this page, or on the front page.
So be it. It's not like you really contributed to the conversations anyways. Your reasonings are either "b/c I say so!!!" or "b/c I'm older!!!". I was just curious to see under what circumstances you'd have Brooks coming off the bench, and it doesn't look like there's any situation where you would. And that says a lot.
One last try before you officially go on ignore - personal attacks are not necessary in a basketball discussion. You are always starting discussions with an attack on the poster. It is a typical way to get people riled up and off balance in an argument. But it is recognizable in your posts. As for Brooks coming off the bench, if we had a better option at the PG position, I would be fine with that. IMO, Lowry is not it..... And I have repeatedly said....I would trade ANYONE on the team to make us better.....and that includes Brooks. DD
Yea, I will send what I can for the greater good of the site and Clutch. Been a huge fan and it has given me endless hours of entertainment...... Thanks for the heads up
What do you call it when you refer to younger posters as "grasshopper" or other nonsense like that? That's a personal attack. That's implying they are young and naive while you are experienced and full of wisdom. Well, Lowry is a pg. Brooks is an undersized shooting guard, and we do have better options at the sg position.
