Officially a trend, only people with their heads in the sand would ignore the weakening of the NBA. DD
Heh, 4 million ruble would be only around 160000 USD I believe... Also, I think $ indicates dollars. Otherwise you use € or £ or something.
It's only a one year deal, so Pargo is most likely going to return to the NBA next year when teams have more cap space.
It's a short-term trend but we don't know where it's headed. The Euro clubs may decide after a couple of years these high-priced Americans aren't worth the cost and this deep well of money could dry up. IMO, if the trend accelerates next summer, we might have a major issue.
We are just going to see more of this as basketball continues to go global -- I think a lot of guys will welcome the adventure of playing in Europe in addition to the bigger salary.
I don't know where you work or what you do for a living, but I'm pretty sure if you want to go work for a foreign company overseas for more money then you can do it, right? Why should things be different for some dude that plays basketball? We should discourage them from making as much money as possible because of......??? I agree on letting up on the cap, but do you really want to see basketball become like baseball? The NBA has been stealing top talent for years. let's not gripe now that the shoe is on the other foot. We live in a GLOBAL economy.
It's been weakening since Danny Ferry left for Europe, 20 years ago. It's very slow bleeding death though. Maybe another 10-20 years, there will be no NBA stars for Europe to take anymore. The big headline will be Euroleague star leaves for the NBA.
This is extraordinarily unlikely. This weakens this Hornets just a little, so it's good for the Rox. Who is Paul's backup now?
This is roughly a 6m/year deal in the US since European teams pays taxes for the players. Smart move and a good deal for a legit NBA point guard.
Personally i think is a good sign for both NBA and Euro League. With a lot these veterans going overseas, it give chances to a lot young and potential players to get their minutes else they will bury in the bench behind those veterans. NBA need these new faces. Whereas Euroleague will improve their quality. So is a win win situation!
Just wondering when we'll see the draft eligible young american players spurn the NBA team that drafts them for foreign teams.
Good for them...now we can get some of that good european money pumping into the U.S. economy. Good solid basketball players are not a scarce commodity. This opens the door for other players to take a crack at the NBA. I won't be worried unless someone of Kobe's stature takes off to play euro ball. Then I'd start to worry.
Let's see, NBA loses Josh Childress Bostjan Nachbar Jennaro Pargo Carlos Delfino JC Navarro Nenad Krstc Jorge Garbajosa NBA gains Marc Gasol Danilo Galinari Rudy Fernandez Roko Ukic Goran Dragic Longshots (Ajinca, Ibaka, Batum etc, whoever sticks) Please find an NBA GM that would trade group A - combined - for any of the top three players in group B (Galinari, Fernandez, Gasol) Childress is a decent player and a good sixth man. That's pretty much it. Nachbar is a one-dimensional player who couldn't find a contract and who doesn't translate to the NBA. Same with Delfino basically. Navarro was an OK backup. Pargo was a decent role player.. The guys here are of course all nearing 30 - not a whole lot of upside in the NBA for any of them. Garbajosa and Krstic aren't in the NBA because they couldn't pass NBA physicals. Krstic a few years ago was probably the best player of this crew but injuries....etc. Next year (or in two years) the NBA will take Ricky Rubio and whoever else they damn well please from Europe. Then a mediocrity like Walter Herrman will go to Spain, a random agent will claim his client is "listen to offers", and somebody will scream "trend trend trend" - hate to break it to you but the trend is going to continue to go one way and not the other. The same way it's going now: Simple math indicates that, absent roster expanison, with an increasing number of players wanting to play in the NBA, and with the flow of talented young players from Europe coming over continuing- there's not going to be room for people at the margins - who are going to have to find jobs elsewhere, such as in Europe.
Wait Sam, so now you are taking the side of the unproven Euro player as a way to prove your argument? I mean none of these guys have played a lick in the NBA......while all the others have proven to at least be servicable and in some cases like Pargo and Childress.....really important pieces of their teams. This feels weird.....we have flipped our arguments.... DD
He's hardly much of an example and he didn't start a trend as it turned out. Nice trivia answer, but we're looking for something more substantial.
You can't be serious. SamFisher is right and continues to kill you on this topic. Marginal NBA players bouncing to the Europe does nothing to belittle the quality of the NBA. Sure, losing Childress, a player that's actually entering his prime, is a bit of a wake up call but you can't honestly believe the statement you just made. You want to talk about a weakening NBA? Talk to me about integrity. Talk to me about officiating. Talk to me about a free agency market that's basically obsolete due to inflation and an overrated sense of value. Talk to me about guaranteed contracts killing work ethic. Just don't talk to me about Bostjan Nachbar. Edit: Sorry for the harsh tone of the message. That wasn't my intent but from reading your posts regarding the NBA vs. Europe I really think you'll drink whatever the flavor-of-the-week Kool-Aid there is.
Any NBA talent leaving weakens the NBA......that is the point....when you have players in the 5-8 leaving, it is weakening the league. Sam brought up a great point lots of GREAT talent is still coming into the league, but before.....the only thing leaving was players who could not cut it in the NBA, now there are NBA quality players playing overseas..... I don't think it is that big of a deal.....because I am happy to see BBall so popular around the world, but IMHO, it is making the league weaker .....even if it is just a small crack in the dam. DD
a lot of the bench players in the league are so ****ty that even the European leagues won't bother to sign. they only sign those with talent. so of course NBA is losing some talent. ****ty NBA players wont' be getting good contracts if they do get signed there. these recent players are getting contract in the millions. Europe needs to sign a big name.
