1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Parents Don't want Kids listening to Obama Speech

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. Cannonball

    Cannonball Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2006
    Messages:
    21,888
    Likes Received:
    2,334
    You don't forsake your ideals just because the leadership is leading in an unacceptable way. Real Republicans still believe in the message even if they don't believe in the messengers.

    I'm a Democrat, not a Republican. If the Democratic leaders ever started acting the Republicans are now, I'd still believe in the core values of the Democratic Party while being sadly disappointed in the individuals who were giving the party a bad name.
     
  2. Batman Jones

    Batman Jones Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 1999
    Messages:
    15,937
    Likes Received:
    5,491
    I can understand remaining a conservative, but not a Republican.

    I don't suggest principles should change but parties do. The Democratic party, not so long ago, was opposed to civil rights. I'm a liberal but I wouldn't have been a Democrat under that leadership. And the Republican party has changed in a fundamental way as I described above.

    Given the fact that the Republican party has made dishonesty a fundament I can't agree it makes sense to stick with them as a matter of principle. I think the opposite is true.
     
  3. Landlord Landry

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2008
    Messages:
    6,857
    Likes Received:
    296
    what gives you that idea? the NSDAP was derived from fascism.
     
  4. Landlord Landry

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2008
    Messages:
    6,857
    Likes Received:
    296
    accepted.

    glennfiddich on me as soon as I start drinking again. :D
     
  5. Cannonball

    Cannonball Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2006
    Messages:
    21,888
    Likes Received:
    2,334
    Remember the church I walked out on on Sunday? This is the pastor's response to the released speech.

     
  6. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    21,310
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    does this pastor regularly talk about politics?
     
  7. Cannonball

    Cannonball Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2006
    Messages:
    21,888
    Likes Received:
    2,334
    It depends. Around the election, he did 2 or 3 sermons that were political in nature. Most often, he'll just inject a short political comment into his sermon and that might happen once a month.

    I half expected him to do a sermon on health care reform at some point but he talked about this speech instead yesterday.

    He likes posts quotes people have made about Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany on his twitter page. Then he asks a question like "sound familiar?"
     
  8. JunkyardDwg

    JunkyardDwg Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2000
    Messages:
    8,703
    Likes Received:
    841

    Seriously?!

    How bout instead of finding any way to criticize and politicize this speech, he ask the youth of his congregation how they indeed, plan on becoming the future leaders of tomorrow.


    And I think he very much should say "I expect..." Demand more out of the youth of this country. You wanna reach your goals? Then it's time to be serious about it.
     
  9. BucMan55

    BucMan55 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    4,736
    Likes Received:
    62

    The only politicizing my pastor ever did was trying to show that the forefathers did indeed have God as a central part of what they did. Showing documents and quotes from many famous historical folks. That was a 4th of July sermon and was not so much about the current president but the way the US in general has gone away from God over the past 40 years. Mostly he will just pray for the military and the leaders of the country.
     
  10. durvasa

    durvasa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,893
    Likes Received:
    16,449
    I thought all those questions from the pastor were very reasonable, actually.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    129,031
    Likes Received:
    39,499
    That guy is a narrow minded fool.

    DD
     
  12. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    Saw Newt Gringrich on The Today Show say that Obama's message was great and that every kid should hear the speech.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,804
    Likes Received:
    20,461
    I think from this day forward this will be a double holiday. Labor Day on Monday, and Indoctrination Day on Tuesday.

    Happy Indoctrination Day everyone!
     
  14. Red Chocolate

    Red Chocolate Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2001
    Messages:
    1,576
    Likes Received:
    309
    Obama is little more than a corporate shill and a paid actor. I wouldn't want my kids listening to an established liar.
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,783
    Likes Received:
    3,705
    I'm going to be ready for all the little zombie socialist children running around tonight in the streets.
     
  16. Franchise2001

    Franchise2001 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2001
    Messages:
    2,284
    Likes Received:
    20
    [​IMG]
     
  17. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 1999
    Messages:
    39,003
    Likes Received:
    3,641
    Better not ever put them in front of a TV set then.

    Corporate Shill?

    Good thing you never heard of Bush Sr/Jr in bed with Big Business (i.e. Big Ag and Big Oil)
     
  18. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2000
    Messages:
    18,814
    Likes Received:
    5,219
    Wed. officially is "smacks of indoctrine" day...Thu. is to be Bad communication day, or is that Friday?...And Sunday is to be ***hole day to remember the fallen angel of the communist ideals.
     
  19. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 1999
    Messages:
    39,003
    Likes Received:
    3,641
    Happy Indoctrination Day to All! I have heard the Obama speech to our children and I am now fully committed to striving toward our Marxist Xanadu! ALL HAIL OUR GLORIOUS BENEFACTOR!
     
  20. Red Chocolate

    Red Chocolate Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2001
    Messages:
    1,576
    Likes Received:
    309
    1. Don't intend to.
    2. Takes huge amounts of campaign contributions from corporations. Am I supposed to believe they donated that money to 'Hope' and 'Change'?
    3. Strawman. I'm closer to libertarian/AC so I'm obviously under the opinion that Obama = Bush = Clinton etc. etc. Which means that I believe the most recent presidents have been snake oil salesmen and/or really dumb and unqualified, in either case they are not the ones making the important decisions. So obviously I don't trust them and would not want my young child to be indoctrinated by a very good speaker with dubious agenda.
     

Share This Page