ALL his talk’s are scripted before hand like all the rest and that’s why he’s getting elbow’ed out of the class rooms before he speaks his drool. The people of the USA, the teachers in the schools of the USA, the workers involved with this ’speech’ – do not want his drool and lies heard by the ears of the youth in the USA. So – RESPECT the fathers and mothers of the youth in the USA today that KNOW what’s best for their kids right now and Obama should stay the hell out of the class room – politics DO NOT AND SHOULD NOT be there at all ! It’s just another ‘bad move’ by the upper inbred morons, it has to be because it’s such r****dED game plan overall ! Bound to fail…..stupid bloody morons
I can remember listening to President Reagan when I was in elementary and junior high school. Having coverage of a Presidential speech in school isn't exactly a new and novel idea. As for "drool and lies," are you serious? I didn't vote for the guy. I don't agree with a lot he has proposed. I don't think that he is lying. As for parents knowing what is best for their kids, I generally agree. If the parents would actually bother to parent, they would hear the speech and discuss any points of disagreement with their kids. They won't because parenting has become lazy. Then people want to b**** when they have not bothered to teach their kids the values they want their kids to have. Rome is burning everybody. The censoring of a Presidential speech is the beginning of the end.
If I had kids, I don't think I would have a problem with it, but... 1) It's not just a regualr speech, it's a speech directly to kids in school. I find it a bit odd, has it ever been done before? Parents who didn't vote for him might find it to be propaganada. 2) It's not really censorship either.
Yes, as mentioned several times, by Bush I and Reagan. And those parents who consider the President of the United States telling kids to stay in school to be propaganda are morons of the highest ****ing degree.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/us/04school.html?bl&ex=1252296000&en=aca08736a6e52505&ei=5087 The first President George Bush, a Republican, made a similar nationally broadcast speech from a Washington high school in 1991, urging students to study hard, avoid drugs and to ignore peers “who think it’s not cool to be smart.” Democrats in Congress accused him of using taxpayer money — $27,000 to produce the broadcast — for “paid political advertising.” I'm kind of shocked by the above. Can someone fact check the NY Times? I'm pretty sure only Republicans are assholes.
It is certainly conceivable that he would say other things and push his values which may be opposite that of an individual set of parents. I don't think it is likely, but it is conceivable. Were that to happen, it is up to parents to learn what was in the speech and talk to their kids. Shielding your children from opposing viewpoints is not the answer. Such a thing also shows children a disrespect for and fear of the office of the Presidency. The whole damned thing is just bad.
I *Really* wish I had a clip of it, but on Thursday Roland Martin totally destroyed this issue on CNN. Basically he claimed that unless you were willing to censor *ALL* government employees from interacting with your kids (including republicans), then you were a giant flaming hypocrite and you need to STFU because all you're doing is whining about losing an election.
Agreed. But what does that say about the other side whining about it? Especially in public forums? It's a non issue, and the fact is that talking about it makes you look stupid.
Political parties complicate things. I'm pretty sure nobody here is a full-on Republican or a full-on Democrat... It's completely r****ded.
Agreed. The problem is you have one side demonizing the other in this "Conservative vs. Liberal" imaginary war (and its progressively gotten worse since Palin threw out the "socialist" word during the campaign). What's funny is that the majority of people don't even know what the true definitions of conservative and liberal are. Because I'm not a conservative, I'm tired of being called a sheep, socialist, communist, fascist, terrorist/foreigner appeaser, anti-american, baby killer, etc. It's to the point where you find those just left of center and just right of center getting fed up with the lack of beneficial discussions. We get crap like this. We see people, like Baylorbear09, who resort to lying, fact distortions and whatever Glenn Beck says to make an argument. I really am tired of it to the point where I'm going to fight back (and you can start to see the tone of other posters in here beginning to change as well). If people want to make ridiculous arguments then we need to call them out and put them in their stupid little place.
At least the Hutto ISD has a sack: In a letter received this week, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan stated the following, "President Obama announced that on September 8 - the first day of school for many children across America - he will deliver a national address directly to students on the importance of education. The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens." I have received several, calls, and emails about the speech and most of the questions pertain to how the school district is going to handle this situation. As parents, we all have our own political viewpoints and attitudes, and we all want to be able to discuss our viewpoints with our children. From the schools' point of view, I do not feel it is the school district's responsibility or place to emphasize one group's philosophy and/or values over another. I do, however, feel it is the district's responsibility to offer all of our students the opportunity to listen to the American president and to either initiate or continue the process of developing their own political viewpoints and philosophies. All of the questions I have received from parents on this issue have been very respectful, and most have addressed the issue of the speech's affect on their own individual students. There has been at least one comment to me that opposes the presentation of this speech to any of our students, so let me address the issue specifically. HISD campuses will be allowed to participate in the president's address to the students of the United States. In addition, as with other controversial issues we deal with, I want to make sure we are protecting our parents' rights by allowing them to exclude their children from this activity if that is their wish. A letter will be sent out no later than Friday of this week (Friday, September 4, 2009) that will explain the activity and will allow parents the "opt out" decision. Logistically, the timing of the speech does provide a real problem for us to show the students a live feed on Tuesday, primarily because it was intended to be shown in a classroom under the supervision of our teachers, and the president is speaking at 12:00 p.m. (noon) our time. Each of our campuses have unique and different circumstances, therefore, I have left it up to the principal to determine the method they will choose to show the broadcast. Because many of our students will be at lunch during that time, the broadcast method and time may look different from campus to campus. For those parents who wish to exclude their children from the speech, the forms should be returned to your campus principal by Tuesday morning, September 8, 2009. Incidentally, a link to the broadcast will be posted on our website for those who wish to watch the speech from that location. This issue has presented a very interesting challenge for us in the school district. With our economy, the wars, and the other political issues we are facing right now, our students are growing up in a society with more and more challenges. I do believe that the more parents and caregivers discuss these issues with our kids, the more informed our future leaders will be to face these challenges when it is their turn. I would like to hear more perceptions from parents and community members about this, because this is an issue we have not faced before. Thank you for your support, and I look forward to talking with others about this important issue. http://www.hutto.txed.net/education/district/district.php?sectionid=1 I sent another email applauding their decision.
Nice find. I suppose Dick Gephardt is a moron "of the highest degree." I would wager that Gepharts opinion about the Obama speech is entirely different. Politics is all about hypocrisy.
The only hypocrites here are the ones who want to limit parents from having the right to pull their kids out of school for this if they want to. Who the hell are you to tell these parents they can't pull their kids out of this event if they want to?
I think that was stupid too, but there are obvious differences. For one, back then they were complaining about expense (I think it's a paper tiger, but still); Obama's speech is being funded outside of government. More importantly, this was a case of politicians playing politics -- not of parents believing the President of their own country might poison their children's minds. Sorry, but that's flat out r****ded.
Politics run amok. I somehow wonder if your response would have been the same had George Bush been speaking. Of course it would not be. You agreed with him politically. "The Little bigtexxx Who Cried Hypocrite"
Did anyone in this thread say kids should be forced to attend school? Of course, it's up to the teachers / school administration if its an excused absence.
DISCLAIMER***I AM NOT EQUATING THE PEOPLE BELOW***MERELY POSTED FOR DEVIL'S ADVOCATE PURPOSES***YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED There are 6 million European Jews that wish parents had not allowed their children to listen to Hitler...the leader of their own country. Again, Obama is NOT Hitler. I post this only to say that history is full of examples of the leader of a country poisoning the minds of its young.
