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Papanikolaou leaning toward two-year deal with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 15, 2014.

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  1. Layup Drill

    Layup Drill Member

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    Pap smear :( is my first thought. Hope he's good
     
    #221 Layup Drill, Jul 15, 2014
  2. yobod

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    I wonder why his stats in Europe are so underwhelming...6PPG?
     
    #222 yobod, Jul 15, 2014
  3. Rox>Mavs

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    This. It's clear DM is asset depleted and is looking to find a couple players that can show a lot of promise at the trade deadline to swing for a major upgrade.

    - Dmo
    - Jones
    - Canaan
    - Papanikolaou (yeah that's right I had to copy and paste)
    - Young
    - Daniels
    - Lull

    If any of these guys can show high upside potential and promise we'll hopefully have additional assets to throw into trade by the deadline. If there's one thing I know DM can do, it's finding talent in the late 1st and 2nd rounds. Hopefully the system we play will let one of these guys shine soon. I like the odds, one of these guys has got to pan out well.
     
    #223 Rox>Mavs, Jul 15, 2014
  4. Drew_Le

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    He reminds me a bit of our old Bostjan Nachbar: tries hard, good size, straight-line drives only, streaky shooter but solid when hot.

    I'm excited!
     
    #224 Drew_Le, Jul 15, 2014
  5. finsraider

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    Rockets must think a lot of him to be giving him our BAE.

    If he accepts (and I assume he will), we will still have the Lin TPE and our MLE.
     
    #225 finsraider, Jul 15, 2014
  6. Carl Herrera

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    PER is heavily dependent on how a player is used in a team's offense and, like traditional stats, should not be taken as a perfect reflection of a player's abilities. It has some value, but need to be viewed in context.

    For the most part, PER is generated via a combination of traditional stats adjusted on a per-possession basis. It is better than the "per game" or even "per ___ minutes" numbers but it still has certain issues.

    Chris Bosh, for example went from a 25 PER during his final season in Toronto to a 19.4 PER in Miami. Did he become more than 20% worse over one season? Of course not. His role change and he got less touches. But he was a critical part of the Miami team that went to 4 straight Finals and he continue to get recognized as an Allstar all 4 of the past seasons.

    Ray Allen went from a 22 and 21.6 PER during his final two season in Seattle to 16.4 and 17.3 in his first two seasons in Boston. Did he decline precipitously over one summer? Again, no. His role changed. He was a part of the "Big 3" for a team that made the next 2 NBA Finals and won a title and was an Allstar in 08 and 09.
     
    #226 Carl Herrera, Jul 15, 2014
  7. basketballholic

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    We're already hard-capped with the sign-and-trade of Ariza. However that contract will either be cap space or a part of the MLE. We'll have to see which it turns out to be. I would suspect it'll be about half the MLE.
     
    #227 basketballholic, Jul 15, 2014
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Houston Rockets, I've learned, to extend $4.5 million total for NBA-bound Kostas Papanikolaou.</p>&mdash; David Pick (@IAmDPick) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/statuses/489076417309597696">July 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
    #228 FeaR, Jul 15, 2014
  9. thedude077

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    Oh yes! We're going to win a championship now!
     
    #229 thedude077, Jul 15, 2014
  10. yobod

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    [​IMG]
     
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    i wonder how many years this is over
     
    #231 Aruba77, Jul 15, 2014
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    Supposedly two, based on prior reports.
     
    #232 HamJam, Jul 15, 2014
  13. finsraider

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    The only reason we would use the MLE vs the BAE is if we wanted a deal longer than 2 years. You can go up to 4 years for the MLE....2 for the BAE.

    It seems we were only offering a 2 year deal.

    I doubt it's cap space, as we'd lose the MLE, BAE and Lin's TPE.
     
    #233 finsraider, Jul 15, 2014
  14. basketballholic

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    2 years

    Wished it was just a tidgen lower at $4.247 million so it would fit the BAE.
     
    #234 basketballholic, Jul 15, 2014
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    This guy is intriguing. Besides ability , dude has some fire in him, which is so important for euros to succeed in NBA. This could work out , guys.
     
    #235 Hakeemtheking, Jul 15, 2014
  16. Akkuron

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    Good, dude's better than Casspi or Garcia anyway and our current cap situation makes this a good opportunity to absorb his release clause.

    High motor hustler, very quick in transition both offensively and defensively, good spot up shooter, good baseline cuts, nice hops for dunking and blocking, moves well laterally in defense, pretty much never injured, literally every single "intangible" you can think of. Shot 100% against AK47 when they matched up in the Euroleague final 2 years ago.

    If he adjusts, he'll be great off the bench, provided he plays with a decent facilitator.


    I wrote a huge post about him about a year ago if anyone wants more details.
     
    #236 Akkuron, Jul 15, 2014
  17. Verbal Christ

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    Hopefully this Greek doesn't get home sick and start crying for momma after a season.
     
    #237 Verbal Christ, Jul 15, 2014
  18. FabsRubio

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    Holy crap wasn't there someone in this thread ****ting on Dorsey?
     
    #238 FabsRubio, Jul 15, 2014
  19. texanskan

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    We probably have to use the majority of the MLE on a guy like Llull

    Trade targets then should be someone like Ryan Anderson
     
    #239 texanskan, Jul 15, 2014
  20. FeaR

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    Last year, he was playing in Spain and as it seems we brought his friend-teamate(+ex rocket), Dorsey.
     
    #240 FeaR, Jul 15, 2014
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