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Papa John's CEO John Schnatter Says Company Will Reduce Workers' Hours In Response To

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  1. ling ling

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    define basic healthcare.
     
  2. rtsy

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    Great as in disposition matrix great!
     
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    I sure it will make your day when it happens.
     
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    Just a note, Chick Fil A doesn't have an anti-gay agenda. Thinking marriage = man + woman does not mean you are anti-gay or especially have an agenda. I think marriage = man and woman but unlike many who agree with that feel a gay couple should have every right that the government gives a married couple(real estate, taxes, heir, etc....)
     
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    Your logic fails time and time again. You're so bitter, Texxy. Give it up. The African American president that you love to hate won the popular vote, the electoral vote, the younger voters, the Asian vote, the Latino vote, the Black vote...I could keep going.

    He's not so bad once you remove your Fox News glasses.
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    They were giving money to causes who were trying to prevent gay Americans from having equal rights. That is an anti gay agenda.

    I'm sure that the Apartheid regime in South Africa would never have described themselves as "anti black", but rather would say "thinking that white people and black people shouldn't mix doesn't mean that you are anti-black or especially have an agenda." And honestly, I bet many of them couldn't see the forest for the trees and would genuinely have believed that that was the case. Doesn't mean that it is true.

    History says apartheid was anti-black oppression. If you honestly don't believe the tide of history will say that opposition to gay marriage is anti-gay, you need to take a better look at the demographic trends.
     
  8. BucMan55

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    My bad, I thought you were talking about simply what the head hancho said a few months ago.....

    I wonder. Gov't stops doing marriages at the courthouse. Gov't gives piece of paper at courthouse saying the two involved are domestic partners and are entitled to these rights. Church still does marriage. Church married couple takes certificate to courthouse to get their piece of paper. "Divorce" still goes the same path, Domestic Partnership has same adultery laws as now.

    If all that happened, would anti-gay-marriage folks still be raising hell about it? Logic says no, but knowing how crazy some people can be.....
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Why should employees have to take care of the millionaire owner of Papa John's? Why can't he take care of himself? Last time I checked we lived in a system where your wage was not decided upon by you, but by an agreement between you and an employer which may also include benefits. That's the decision of both Employer and Employee.

    This is the problem with America today - every greedy corporation owner wants a handout from their employees and the ability to give them a crappy deal even though those employees do the work that puts millions in their pockets. Then they whine and cry when they are asked to give a little back to them. The multi-millionaire owners want to take from their workers who have put in their blood, sweat, and tears into making the owners' companies what they are today. What makes you think that workers should take crappy deals all so their super wealthy employers can keep profiting from their hard work? Don't blame the President, or the workers who are doing the things the owner isn't willing to do.

    Which side of the spectrum do you think you're falling under?
     
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    I think both are at fault. Gov't for trying to tell a private business how he should run his business and CEOs for not looking past the immediate cost of insuring a few employees per store and realizing the negative effect losing those full time workers on bottom lines as well as morale.

    But I ask how employees are taking care of the owner? They are being compensated for their work just like the agreement they signed when they accepted the job.
     
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    I would like it if businesses didn't have to provide health insurance because we had a single payer system. Since we don't, I don't find it out of the question to have employer's such as Papa John's pay for the insurance. That is the middle of the road response to me. It's better than having more uninsured people, but it isn't as good as the single payer system.

    I do agree with you about the loss both in terms and efficiency of having to train new people all over the place rather than pay to insure the employees.
     
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    How were these major companies able to afford slightly higher taxes in the 1990s without laying off people? All of the sudden they can't afford it? Weird.
     
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    But the employer mandate means this is not true. The decision has been made for them by force (what if I would rather have extra cash instead of health insurance? Too effing bad.)

    Nah, not greedy, just don't like being forced to do something. Compulsion sucks.

    What you should be asking is why health insurance is tied to your employment? Why isn't it like any other form of insurance?

    Answer: employee health benefits are not taxed (this is an insane relic of WWII when there was a cap on salaries and companies started getting around it by offering health benefits)

    Solution: give a tax credit to purchase health insurance. Then the benefits you would get from your employer get converted to increased salary, and you can just go buy your health insurance like you do car insurance.
     
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    Some fresh bamboo, a nice (but inclosed) habitat and tummy rubs. Come on, ling ling.
     
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    does anyone else find it extremely suspicious that the person who posted this thread is known as 'Pizza_Da_Hut'?
     
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    Avoiding this type of crap is one of the reasons why we just need national health care.
     
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    That is a stupid business decision. Trying to turn off at least 50% of your market? How much is the short and long term effect of that counter productive PR?

    He could have just done it without fanfare.
     
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    The 11 cents a Pizza that Papa John's loses in health care costs amounts to probably what? 25 cents an hour an extra for workers to have better health care? To get sick less, to be more productive? To be happier and have a better life than on minium wage?

    I seriously doubt Papa John's is doing this because it actually affects its business that much, their sales are up, their profits are higher, and they are opening 1,500 more locations.

    It's purely political anger.
     
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    bai dezine
     
  20. thadeus

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    Whose alter ego are you? Which regular?
     

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