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Palin Interview: War with Russia?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Sep 11, 2008.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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  2. Rashmon

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    You're creeping me out...you sound like Palin is fueling the Roxran 2008 Spankathon. Yuck.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    seriously, how come i knew what the bush doctrine was right of the bat. how come everyone in here knows what it is but sarah palin doesn't?


    If Sarah Palin knows so much about science, how come she doesn't believe dinosaurs are over 4,000 years old and that global warming doesn't exist? How come it took 5 colleges - none of them know for their science programs - to graduate.

    If she is so ready, how come she needs an army of rovian advisors to give her a crash course in foreign policy and a set of talking points she can't stray from?

    If she is ready to be president, than a monkey can be president and do an equally good job.

    I'd rather see a monkey be president than her. I'm dead serious.
     
  4. Rashmon

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    We've got that now...
     
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    the monkey you know is better than the monkey you don't.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    I just want to point out that Palin's interview happened after weeks of intense cramming and preparation for it. After of all that, this is the best she could do?
     
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    Palin's refute:

    Wait a second.. I guess war with Russia is kinda like war with Iraq.
     
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    Gibson was supposed to play dead and roll over. I guess while Charlie was going through tapes on Palin, her rhetoric about judgment and karma made him realize that there could be future punishment to give another potential President an easy pass.
     
  9. thacabbage

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    Did you guys know you can actually see Russia from land in Alaska?
     
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    I also here that if you go to Alaska and take a long gaze out west and see Russia, then you will know how to conduct foreign policy in terms of addressing the conflict with Georgia, pressuring Iran about nukes, Ukraine, nuclear disarmment, etc...

    It must be a really amazing site to behold.
     
  11. Rashmon

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    Not quite sure of the intent of your question.

    I can see planes in the sky, but that doesn't make me a pilot.

    If you were being sarcastic, then lol.
     
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    I completely disagree. Putin had been working on contriving just that kind of response from Georgia for a very long time. It is no coincidence that the columns of tanks and troops were ready for an immediate invasion, in my opinion. The current form of Putin's old workplace, the KGB, were directing a campaign to incite a Georgian response to the "seperatist" attacks. The Georgian President, sadly, fell for it while the world was distracted by the Olympics. Bush's response was pathetic and days late. The civilian dead and injured in Georgia's Ossetian province were grossly exaggerated. With all due respect, your post is exactly the reaction Putin and the Russian government were looking for. They should be congratulated, I suppose, because their ruse worked brilliantly.


    Rights group: Few civilians died in South Ossetian war

    By Mansur Mirovalev
    Associated Press / September 12, 2008

    MOSCOW - Fewer than 100 civilians died in Georgia's breakaway province of South Ossetia during last month's war, human rights activists said yesterday - a far smaller number than Russian and South Ossetian officials have claimed.

    Tatiana Lokshina, a Russian researcher for the US-based group Human Rights Watch who visited the region, said trips to a hospital, a cemetery, and conversations with residents failed to corroborate claims by Russia and its South Ossetian allies that thousands of civilians were killed in the region.

    During and immediately after last month's war, Russian officials repeated South Ossetian authorities' claim that 1,500 and even up to 2,000 civilians were killed in the war. Later, however, Russian prosecutors launched a probe into civilian deaths and have refrained from comment until their investigation is complete.

    "I don't understand where the number of 1,500 comes from," Lokshina told reporters.

    "Thank God, civilian deaths are not measured in thousands," she said, adding that the number of civilians who died appeared to be "fewer than 100."


    http://www.boston.com/news/world/eu...oup_few_civilians_died_in_south_ossetian_war/
     
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    It's not about the numbers, it's the fact that Georgia did attack civilian centers and put civilians in harm's way. They may have been "trapped" but they made a very poor decision. It was a reckless action in my opnion.

    The response was definitely out of proportion, and I'm certain Russia was licking it's lips and probably was hoping or even pushing along action by Georgia - but it doesn't matter.
     
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    Why doesn't it matter? The "Ossetian government" declared that it eagerly awaited annexation by Mother Russia. That wasn't the story Putin wanted put out, so a day or two later, the same "Ossetian government" declared that it didn't mean it, that they were for "independence" after all.

    Again, why doesn't it "matter?" This would be like Mexico's government inciting terrorist attacks against Texans and against the US government. The US military reponds and launches an assault in Texas. Mexico declares that there are civilian casualties in the thousands among the population and immediately sends several armored divisions into Texas, their air force to bomb government air force bases in Texas and the United States, their navy to sink US naval ships along the coast of Texas and the Gulf of Mexico, their military taking control of the Texas and Gulf ports. And after that? They recognize a "sovereign Texas" while claiming that they had "saved the population from genocide, after thousands were killed by the mad government."

    Sound absurd? That's exactly what Russia did to Georgia.
     
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    Because you don't mess with one of the permanent members of the U.N. security council. That's it. Period.

    You don't get it? Russia has these things called a plethora of nuclear warheads. You are never going to be in the right in such a conflict. It doesn't matter if Russia baits and prodes.

    Georgia was utterly stupid to do what they did. I'm sure atrocities were commited on both sides. I am sure Russia's was far worse - maybe 10 times, maybe 100, maybe 1000. But let's not be naive here ok? What was Georgia thinking? Did they think we'd come rushing to their aid? Really? I mean, what can we do?

    Guess what - nothing. That part of the world is in Russia's sphere - we can't go there. We can just bang on walls and make a big fuss.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Same as Cuba over here.

    DD
     

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