Normally, you would. But in this case, the student spent the entire RNC (with an audience of almost 40 million) blasting the teachers and talking down to them! I think everybody would be a lot more forgiving if she weren't such a complete ass when it came to her dealings with anyone who dares question anything about her.
I do not think that you will have to wait ten years to see what she is, I think that will come about ina short time. I think the boys running the show are trying to tell her what she should think and I do not think that is the type of person she is, I think that she is a thinker and a person that is open to change and getting things accomplished. I think that her social values are so far from the left that it is hard for people on the left to even think about her in a positive way.
Which moral issues is Obama "way wrong" on exactly? I respect someone's decision to vote one way or another, I think the only thing that gets people going is just blind following, and what most of the left and even middle feel is that there is in no way, shape or form a way to justify Sarah Palin as ready or prepared to be in any situation of power or leadership. I hear and understand the McCain arguments. But to say Palin is qualified is ridiculous. Granted our Veep pick has been shooting off some strange quotes recently as well...
Open to change? What I've seen from her is very extreme, so naturally, yes, it is hard for me to view her in a positive light. But it's not for a lack of trying.
I think that the moral issues should be talked about on another thread. I never said Pailin was qualified, you are putting words in my mouth. I follow noone blindly, and I think that is a week argument by you.
Just saw on CNN that McCain is wanting to cancel the VP debate next Thursday and is wanting to replace it with this Friday's Presidential debate. LOL
Which would explain the desire to suspend the debate in the first place. Obama v McCain would be a debate. Biden v Palin would be a joke. It would benefit the McCain campaign greatly if the VP debate were canceled and replaced with a suspended presidential debate.
Proof <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vMQxDprCVbE&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vMQxDprCVbE&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> After that video with Katie I'm pretty sure now they are going to do whatever it takes to distance Palin from the media.
Funny, when I heard that McCain was "suspending his campaign," the first thought I had was that it was an attempt to further hide Palin.
I really agree with you here. She is experiencing something like a college student studying for 12 final exams at once, and she's previously always had the chance to do her own studying and think her own thoughts. It's got to be completely confusing. And for the interview itself, that exceeded my expectations, for both Palin and Couric. I liked Couric's tough look, and I'm surprised Sarah didn't look more pissed off than she did. She kept the inner pitbull hidden pretty well, for the most part.
Fixed. I wasn't trying to imply that you were saying she was or was not qualified or that you were a mere blind follower. I was more or less explaining why so many people are thrashing her the way they are. Reason being...she deserves it. If the Democratic VP candidate was as unprepared and downright horrible for the job as she appears to be then I'd expect the right wingers to do the same thing to him/her. And you didn't really answer the question, but it would likely derail the thread further.
Forget your moral issues... no one will take up your cause, mccain or obama. McCain is selling his loaning his soul just so he can win the elections. Once he's in, the evangelical base will get stabbed in the back, again... this time more explicitly.
I'm liberal but I'm pro life. If history is any indicator, having a pro life conservative in the white house in no way mean Roe v Wade will get overturned. The chances of that are slim. Previously, McCain had said that even though he was pro life, he would not want to see Roe v Wade overturned because women would then seek illegal and unsafe abortions. I do wonder if McCain's refined stance reflects a true change of opinion or if it's simply there to appease the base.
It's voters like you, who are numerous no doubt, that the Republican base has abused and manipulated to no end, knowing that no matter what at the end of the day the small issues will bind you to them to the point that they can disregard all of your other interests. It's no different than Democrats with black people. I don't ask you to change your belief on politics, just stop leaving yourself helpless in the hands of those that would use something like gay marriage or stem cell research funding just to get your vote while they craft the economy and healthcare system into a machine that is getting more and more efficient at keeping themselves at the top and you at the bottom.
Palin is a grave concern as a VP. She's not dumb - she just is totally underqualified. She doesn't have it. She just can't be put in a position where she might be president. She's not ready, or she just doesn't have what it takes. I don't know, but her voice was shaking, she didn't have answers, I mean...it's one thing not to have the answer, but you still have to come across as confident, smart, and surely Palin should be able to handle Couric? I mean....she has to be tougher than what she showed here right? McCain made a mistake, it's really that simple. I think they are waking up to the fact that she can't do a press conference or be in any kind of Q&A format, and certainly can't be in a VP debate. This isn't good though. It's not good at all. It's not something to be laughed at really. This is a VP candidate. You can't allow this to happen. The very fact that she was selected now is a breakdown of massive porportions. I don't want to see this. It's distressing.
I was at church. Wednesday night small groups. Tonight's topic of a month long discussion was "Addiction." We discussed the issues people face, the fact that every addict (of anything, drugs, alcohol, sex, interwebs, shopping, p*rn, work, approval, etc.) gradually gets to that point... no addiction happens overnight. We talked about the fact that people have to make the decisions within themselves to want to be free from addictions. That though some people (in churches) simply think that God can just zap them free, they usually have to gradually heal just as they gradually got into those addictions. We cited Biblical verse that help in precedent and principle about making right choices, but I found it refreshing that many understood that to be free from addictions, much of the load is on the individual. In fact, my approach, as with a lot of social issues was this, you cannot ask God for help on things if you do not intend to help be a part of the solution. One thing I grow tired of is people blaming God for not bailing them out of situations they got themselves into in the first place. He can help with wisdom, but we are responsible for implementation. I'm glad so many have called out my name in this thread, though. I feel it shows that you need me. FWIW, I've yet to sit and listen to the interview between Palin and Couric. I will do that though. I listened to Dave Letterman (a comedic talk-show host) rip McCain for shunning him for an opportunity to also be on with Couric, before heading off to deal with the crisis in DC... I saw that thread first. I posted there first. I hadn't noticed this thread since about 3 hours after being home. I will come back and comment though... If I find it necessary to rebut anything you've all said... as if it'll change the tsunami of hatred for Palin. But thanks for declaring me a man of no "stones." I was busy discussing real life ways and means of getting people off drugs, etc. Our church tries to stay relevant to what our families need. This board... I'm sorry but, it's not as important to me as some of you make it out to be.
