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Palin Delayed 9+ hrs to Deliver Downs Baby After Her Water Broke.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. IROC it

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    If she was cleared by the doctor.. no problem.. in my case we had no reason to fly... and for our second child she was forbidden to ride in a car for more than the length of the ride from home to Galveston UTMB for the last 6 1.2 months.

    Yes really... not all pregnancy is the same. Why not? That's my question. Why not fly? If there is no blood pressure issue (the issue that restricts travel 9/10 of the time) then why not fly?

    It's not that simple. Sorry.



    Dude... for what it's worth... educate yourself on what it means when the "water breaks."


    My own sister-in-law's water broke and didn't even realize it... She had the child the next evening.

    Doctor's said later that she too, had a high break.. and that the baby was so low... not in the canal yet... but low enough to slow the "leak" that everyone here thinks can only be a "gush of river-like proportions" - and that she must have had this occur either over night, or maybe in the shower...

    On top of that.. here in the great "medically advanced" state of Texas all of this happened... then she went to the Hospital with labor pains... they sent her home and basically said come back when you're closer to ready...


    AFTER her water had already "broken." She was sent home to labor at home!

    In the same Dallas, TX that everyone here was arguing that Palin should have stayed at...

    Later the NEXT evening my first nephew was born 100% healthy.


    It happens. 2 out of the five births among my wife's sisters have had this occur... it's more common than you think.

    Many times women begin to run a low grade fever after the water "breaks" and they tell you to watch for that as you get close to the delivery date... because sometimes the fluid does not present itself as an obvious "break" and an infection can set in, hence the fever - the body's indicator of infection (free medical tip).

    Even if it does "gush out" the baby can still be delivered much, much later.

    Many women lose their water well before the child is even effaced or in the approach to the birth canal... some are not even dilated to a 1, and their water breaks.

    With five sisters and cousins having kids in my family I've seen it twice.


    In fact the one cousin that lost her child (stillborn) had her water broken by the nurses while in the Hospital...


    Don't tell me that every case is the same, therefore it = bad decision on Palin's part.


    HOGWASH
     
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  2. IROC it

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    "Off topic."


    "Context."


    Learn these terms. ;)
     
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    Yeah...and Palin went to the hospital and was checked out right? Or was it just that phone call exam that her supposed doctor did? That surely would tell him how dialated she was.

    Your excuses are as pathetic as your posts. I'm through addressing you because you have no logic or reason other than your candidate winning.
     
  4. rhadamanthus

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    Why bother going to the doctor at all then, genius?

    You're outta this world on this one, dude.
     
  5. IROC it

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    Who said she wasn't in touch with her doctor, detective?

    Your refusal to listen to sound supposition of plausible explanations and differing scenarios in this thing called life are under a rock, dude.

    Again, the CONTEXT of that response is worth the investigation. If you're so inclined to acquiesce to my request.


    Or just stay under your false rock of Gibraltar. You know all.
     
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    ^ huh?

    she made a bad call. it worked out for her, though, fortunately. admit it and move on.

    or keep posting..it's kind of funny.
     
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    I strongly disagree that she made a bad call.


    I also strongly believe she would have stayed in TX to have the child if it was necessary.


    I admit that it's not a "normal" scenario, but that's it.

    What's "funny" as in -weird- is that everyone here is so quick to call "bad" move...


    That is based on their own understanding or experience with childbirth.


    Too bad not many women come to the D&D.


    For the record, my wife has been sitting here in complete disgust that so many would try and act like they know better than a mom, veteran of four births, in what's best to do in this scenario.

    Am I the only person on here that has faced a "low percentage" scenario first hand for a child's birth?


    Where are the women D&D posters?
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Well, I think you are seriously in the minority......

    DD
     
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    I just don't see how any doctor, in good conscious, would allow a patient 8 months into her pregnancy to get on a plane, let alone get on one after her water breaks. Even if it was the scenario you described, there's just too many variables that could change the situation in a hurry. And if you're tens of thousands of feet in the air if/when the situation does turn, then you're screwed.
     
  10. Refman

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    You have no logic other than a candidate you think is "crap" losing.

    Oh yeah...and you have 9 kids. So you are an expert on obstetrics too.
     
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    "For the record", my wife is in "complete disgust" for Palin's decision to get on that plane after her water broke.

    From one wife to another. ;)

    Tell you what: I work with 5 ladies on my job, 4 of them mothers. I'll give you their opinions tomorrow. That will settle it.
     
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    I just don't care. It's her life. Palin should only visit the White House on a guided tour like everybody else, but this is her private business.
     
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    in fairness, she was way early (7 instead of 8 months) so she wasn't likely to go into labor right?

    I think if she called her doctor and she took his advice, than that might be a consideration.

    We don't know her body, nor her situation, and the fact that she's given birth quite a few times before...it might be possible that she knows her body.

    I am not condoning what she has done, I just think there's not enough to make this into a story. Afterall, I'd imagine that if this was a serious risk, she would be putting her own life at risk not just her baby.

    I just think there are other things worth more discussing. wow - am i actually saying that to you?
     
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    Im very tempted to keep embarassing you..but let's call a truce and make peace! :cool:
     
  15. declan32001

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    I'm certainly not qualified to speak for Da Dakota, but I'm completely for a woman's right to choose the conditions under which a woman chooses giving birth.

    And when a woman is a social conservative running for VP she's fair game for anyone who has an opinion. Ask any social conservative. They'd crucify McCain if he hurt their agenda.
     
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    while bickering amongst each other, we have ignored two essential points

    1. They are tracy mcgrady fans only

    2. you would think a family of politicians would own a better camera or know how to use one :eek:
     
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    LOLOLOL :)
     
  18. Deckard

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    I haven't seen Refman embarrassed. Wrong, sometimes (IMO!), but not embarrassed. And he made a point earlier I wish you would consider. There's way too many "roll-eyes" being flung around here. I think they look pretty stupid, myself, and I never use them.

    Of course, in special cases, I might post (insert "roll-eyes" here).
     
  19. IROC it

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    :rolleyes:


    I'm not an OBGYN, but I guess I'll have a look.
    (as seen on a tshirt)​
     
  20. declan32001

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    Ok, now I'm irritated. I've griped so much about the roll-eyes emoticon that pryuen doesn't even have reliable internet access in the GARM. :D

    Seriously, on the whole don't you think that everybody should be happy today? The "religous" right is happy. C'mon, you're happy too. The level of political discourse didn't change today, it's been horrible for years, but today's how you open a national convention!

    History is here. Enjoy. ;)
     

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