Pakistan to execute Christian mother who verbally insulted Muhammed

I won't find it because it does not exist. I think it's sufficient to say you were incapable of substantiating your own statement. Therefore, the statement you made must be erroneous and false.

 

Sort of like someone trying to prove they are talking to God, huh?



DD

 

This is so sad. The ignorance, moral superiority complex and blood thirst of these people is unreal. Interesting to see what happens if the assassin gets sentenced to death. Civil war?

 

Where has anyone made that claim IN THIS THREAD?

You made a claim IN THIS THREAD. You did not back up that claim. Get over the fact that you were called out on it.

 

Uh, yeah, isn't Islam's whole basis that it's leader had a hookup to heaven?

Get over it !



LOL...dude you rock !

DD

 

Did anyone in this thread make that claim? No.

Did anyone in this thread make a claim that the Quran's message changed in correlation with Muhammad's age? Yes, a fat disingenuous ex-programmer did.

Did that fat loser bother substantiating his claim? No.

Was that obese poster called out on his erroneous statement? Yes.

 

Your obsession with his weight > his disdain for your religion

 

I've made like 3 to 4 comments on his weight. He's made a few thousand posts on Islam.

gg

 

It is funny really, that is what closed minded folks do, they don't want to be introspective, they want to just hammer on the messenger and ignore the message.

It's ok, I am fat.

Fat is only temporary, stupid can be permanent.



He can't stop replying though, I am his puppet master.

DD

 

Kind of like every one of your posts on anything Islam/Muslim related.

You have yet to provide evidence that the Quran's message changed in correlation with Muhammad's age.

If you are going to make claims, then back them up. Otherwise, why should anyone take anything you say seriously?

Of course, you're gonna go on ignoring the request for you to substantiate the assertion you made PAGES ago.

 

That's the difference... you make personal comments about his career and/or physical attributes while ATW and DD (while I do not agree with their manner of debate) make comments about your religion.

Considering we have been at war in Afghanistan which has overflowed into Pakistan, the topic of questioning extremist Islamic views as a danger to civilization is valid. It is not the questioner's responsibility to read every line of the Koran (or any lines for that matter). It is not your responsibility to defend Islam and Mohammad to the death on a basketball website. As a muslim though, you could definitely do a better job explaining why the extremists are wrong and why ATW and DD are overreacting and shouldn't lump extremists and moderates together.

ATW and DD are nice guys (as I'm sure Basso, Bigtexxx, da_Whopper, glynch, Samfisher, Batman Jones, etc. are in real life) and do not deserve the personal attacks based on their political/religious beliefs... just as you don't want to be lumped in with extremists in Pakistan who murder political/religious enemies.

 

Hey now, that's just crazy talk. :grin:

 

It is true, whether you want to go research it yourself is entirely up to you, I don't care enough to go find it for you.

Maybe if you were a little more respectful, but that ship sailed long ago for you..

DD

 

Sure seems like the guy is getting celebrated like a hero.

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Roses for Pakistan governor's alleged killer

LAHORE, Pakistan - Lawyers showered the suspected killer of a prominent Pakistani governor with rose petals when he arrived at court Wednesday and an influential Muslim scholars group praised the assassination of the outspoken opponent of laws that order death for those who insult Islam.

Punjab. Gov. Salman Taseer's killing has sent tremors through the ranks of Pakistan's already embattled progressives and rights activists. Thousands gathered to mourn the politician at his funeral in the city of Lahore.

Taseer was shot dead Tuesday, allegedly at the hands of one of the men assigned to protect him , police commando Mumtaz Qadri, 26, who police say confessed to killing Taseer because of the politician's opposition to strict blasphemy laws.

As Qadri made his first appearance in an Islamabad court, where a judge remanded him in custody, the hero's welcome he received illustrated Pakistan's growing identity crisis as fundamentalist Islam has spread here over the years, forcing even secular political parties to curry favor with the religious right.

A rowdy crowd slapped Qadri on the back and kissed his cheek as he was escorted inside the court. Lawyers not involved in his case tossed rose petals, while hundreds of sympathizers chanted slogans in his favor and one gave him a flower necklace.

More than 500 clerics and scholars from the group Jamat Ahle Sunnat said no one should pray or express regret for the killing. The group representing Pakistan's majority Barelvi sect, which follows a brand of Islam considered moderate, also issued a veiled threat to other opponents of the blasphemy laws.

"The supporter is as equally guilty as one who committed blasphemy," the group warned in a statement, adding politicians, the media and others should learn "a lesson from the exemplary death."

Amid tight security, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and other senior ruling party officials joined up to 6,000 mourners who gathered under tight security to pay homage to Taseer at the funeral in the eastern city of Lahore. Other parties, including the main opposition Pakistan Muslim League-N, which is more aligned with religious groups, had limited presence at the event.

Taseer's assassination has further deepened the turmoil in nuclear-armed Pakistan, where the economy is barely scraping by and suicide attacks by Taliban linked groups are an ongoing threat. Taseer, 66, was a senior member of the ruling party and close ally of U.S.-backed President Asif Ali Zardari. He is the highest-profile political figure to be assassinated since former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was slain three years ago.

Qadri, who allegedly pumped more than 20 rounds from his assault rifle into Taseer's back in an Islamabad market Tuesday, has yet to be charged. Questions have arisen over how he managed to be assigned to Taseer's security detail.

Faisal Raza Abdi, political adviser to Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, said Punjab police had told him that the department had months ago deemed Qadri as a security risk and warned that he should not assigned to protect high-profile figures. Abdi said the fact that he was allowed to guard Taseer suggested others may have played a role in the killing.

"I do not think this is an individual act. It is a well planned murder," he told The Associated Press by phone.

A senior police official said Qadri told investigators he had looked for a chance to kill the governor since joining his security squad on Tuesday morning, but did not get the opportunity at the presidential or senate buildings. His chance came when the squad was called to escort Taseer from a restaurant on Tuesday afternoon, the official said.

After the attack, Qadri threw his weapon down and put up his hands up when one of his colleagues aimed at him, pleading to be arrested alive, the official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the case.

Taseer was blunt and public in his liberal views even when compared to others in the People's Party, a largely secular-minded political party.

In recent weeks, he had spoken forcefully in favor of clemency for a Christian woman sentenced to die for allegedly insulting Islam's Prophet Muhammad under Pakistan's strict blasphemy laws. Although courts typically overturn convictions and no executions have been carried out, rights activists say the laws are used to settle rivalries and persecute religious minorities.

Taseer's support of the condemned woman made him the target of protests and death threats in a country where Islamist groups can quickly bring thousands to the streets and call strikes that cripple businesses.

As a sign of the growing influence of Islamists, the People's Party promised days ago not to touch the blasphemy laws. The announcement came as the party struggled to hold on to key members of its ruling coalition, one of which is an Islamist party.

The ruling party is now seeking support from various opposition groups following the defections of two allied parties that have left it without a majority in parliament.

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/...p_rosesforpakistangovernorsallegedkiller.html

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I'm sorry, but that country seems messed up beyond belief. And this can directly be traced to islamism.

 

See, that is just sickening and to have clerics celebrating the killing, sick.

I wonder what would happen if they were marked for assassination for expressing those views to their followers.

See how quickly they backtrack then, cowards on a bully pulpit.

DD

 

You think that's all the comments ATW has made? Only about my religion? He has called me stupid and r****ded numerous times. He has called me and a few others here an Islamist and equating us with people like Osama bin Laden. He has equated us with apes before too. DD is a lot more subtle and does not do half those things, but that doesn't mean he hasn't posted ignorant and bigoted comments.

 

So call him an ignorant bigot if you please... no need for attacking the man's living/physical condition.

 

The world is square. I don't care enough to go find it for you. 100% of fat ex-programmers are sociopaths. I don't care enough to go find it for you. 99.99999% of Germans have Nazi tendencies. I don't care enough to go find it for you. If you gonna make claims, then back them up. Otherwise, those claims cannot be taken seriously. If you don't understand the basic precepts of discussion, why bother?

You, of all people, are talking about respecting others? ROFL!

 

Yawn !

DD

 

So, it's fine for him to call others names... Just don't do it to him because his obesity will kill him?

2 years ago, DD was this sections' ATW. You should've seen half the crap he posted. It almost made those Rockets Talk videos look decent.