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Pakistan 'can and must' dismantle all terror networks: Barack Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jan 24, 2016.

  1. geeimsobored

    geeimsobored Contributing Member

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    I hope you are aware that Pakistan was also part of the British colonial empire. Also, I'm really not sure they did much to help "civilize" anything. That's frankly a rather eurocentric assumption to even make and moreover the British own a great deal of responsibility for the divide and conquer strategy they used to take control of British India. Not to mention the complete ****up that is partition is totally on the British. Over 1 million people died and communities across Northern India and Pakistan basically turned on each other which proceeded to melt down the economies and civil societies of both areas overnight.

    Like 99% of things in the world, history is much more nuanced and complex than a single statement like that. Pakistan's failures trace back to a series of events over time. The British are but a single variable in the story of both countries.
     
  2. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    Leave him alone bro, he has literally zero understanding of pre-Britain India's success to be saying this stuff.

    India was turning into a global industrial powerhouse along with China when Britain came and sank it into the depths of despair, and then took credit for improving it by a hair. As if what Indians needed was to learn English and wear suits. I'm sure Indians would rather have streets named after Britons than all the resources England sucked out of it, all the lives it ended when rebellion arose. They left a thriving nation in 4 illogical and bleeding pieces and we're supposed to thank them for it? lol

    Reminds me of this poll from last week.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...d-the-british-empire-poll-finds-a6821206.html

    I wish everyone could understand what an uncivilized and human bond-straining view this is to hear for people who faced and face colonialism from people who continue to live off the benefits of that colonialism.

    Those "delightful" pictures of Chruchill visiting governments in his colonies - has it ever crossed anyone's mind how those pictures look to the colonized?

    Enough of this mess guys. Love is the answer.
     
  3. ghettocheeze

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    Pakistan's intelligence service the ISI is the real root behind the terror problem. For so long it has propped up the likes of the Taliban, Lashkar-e-Taiba (the group behind the Mumbai terror attacks), Haqqani network, Jaish-e-Mohammed, etc... as part of its foreign policy towards India, Afghanistan and others. This is the same organization that provided safe passage and harbored Bin Laden in Abbottabad all under its protection. It's doing the same for Hafiz Muhammad Saeed - the mastermind of the Mumbai attacks.

    There is no negotiating with such an organization. Everything is simply appeasement. To fight the terror problem in Pakistan, the ISI must weeded out, dismantled, and replaced by something more constructive - something the Pakistani government doesn't have the stomach for. As a result, the U.S. would be better served calling a terrorist organization for it really is and fight it tooth and nail. Instead, we choose to fund this organization through our sugar daddy aid packages to the Pakistani military which is fully complicit with this scheme of terror.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    It means what it says, the UK pretty much brought it's culture to India - and as a result - they are a much more dynamic and forward thinking country than Pakistan - which has archaic thinking due to it's religion/culture.

    Not perfect but better than Pakistan.

    That separation was the best thing that happened to India - they are far and away a better society than Pakistan.

    DD
     
  5. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    Listen, Britain colonized India when Pakistan didn't exist - i.e. what we call Pakistan today was part of India then. They "brought their culture" to both of those places.

    Pakistanis are just a group of people who used to live in part of former India + roughly half of the very same Muslims who lived in what we today call India.

    India as a whole is only now recovering from the damage that Britain did to it. They were a global industrial power house and now they are almost back to where they were before Britain arrived.

    Britain has absolutely nothing to do with why Pakistan is not like India. Britain left before Pakistan existed in its current form.

    Stop embarrassing yourself. You always dig yourself deeper and deeper into embarrassment.
     
  6. bnb

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    It's a stealth Dadakota campaign to promote Descent Underground. ;).
     
  7. DudeWah

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    This is such a dumb post on so many different levels that I won't even bother to address how stupid it is.
     

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