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Pakistan As You've Never Seen

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by don grahamleone, Nov 22, 2007.

  1. Omer

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    My roommate is, he's torn.
     
  2. Mr. Brightside

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    confused?
     
  3. Yaozer

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    Isn't that the same as someone having a Chinese dad and a Taiwanese mum?
     
  4. don grahamleone

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    Well, I was in Karachi because I was making a documentary about Pakistan, post 9/11. As Mr. Brightside said, that was who he said it was. The guy is my best friend that I met in college. I went to Pakistan both before and after 9/11. The first time introduced me to the country and built a trust factor. The second time I was nervous to go, but did anyway.

    I had a great time and as you can see, saw plenty.
     
  5. Nice Rollin

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    i'd go against the one that produces and does nothing about al qaeda
     
  6. Yaozer

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    I'd say it depends on your religion if you're half/half. But if not, it's pretty much bollywood vs lollywood, and I say bollywood gets the edge.
     
  7. Nice Rollin

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    You know there are muslims in india too? they're not as "extreme" though
     
  8. TreeRollins

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    I hear muslims in india have it worse than the untouchables.
     
  9. fmp087

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    i am an american of pakistani descent.
     
  10. Yaozer

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    Yeah of course, but if you were half I would think that you would lean more towards the Muslim country. I thought that Indians there strongly dislike Muslims.
     
  11. R0ckets03

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    Umm...I am Muslim from India. I had Hindu, Muslim and Christian friends. There pretty much is no difference. In Bombay nobody gives a rats ass what religion you are.
     
  12. Omer

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    Yeah my roommate is Muslim, I think he is leaning more toward Pakistani side than Indian.

    I'm gonna ask him straight up which one he likes better on Sunday when I get back from break.

    Can't believe I haven't yet. :D
     
  13. Mango

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    Over the years, there have been incidents of sectarian strife in India, but the Muslim community in India also has had some very shining moments.



    The following story is somewhat dated, but still illustrates that Muslims can definitely be achievers in India.

    Muslim Stars of india
    Recently the computer and BPO giant Wipro announced its last quarter profits -- a whopping 41 percent. That might be amazing for many. However, for Wipro, which is used to taking spectacular success in its own stride, it was almost routine.



    With a market capitalisation of Rs 90,000 crore, and 81 percent shares in Wipro, the Wipro head Azim Premji is among the richest Indians counted on the fingers of a single hand.



    Premji, who as an engineering student at Stanford University inherited his father’s modest vegetable oil business less than three decades ago, gradually diversified into computers, filling a void left by the withdrawal of IBM from India. Over time the company moved into the emerging area of BPO with resounding success.



    Among the high-profile Indian corporate leaders is Habil Khorakiwala, the chairman of rising pharma company, Wockhardt Ltd. With a market capitalisation of Rs 5,000 crore and a fast expanding business presence in Europe and America, the company is stated to rise quickly. In fact, half of its business is in Europe and America.



    Wockhardt UK is among the 10 largest generics companies in Britain and the second largest hospital supplier. Biotech is one of the mainstays for Wockhardt, which has proven capabilities in various facets of biotechnology discipline including gene cloning, development of production strains, expression of proteins in all major expression systems -- yeast, mammalian and bacterial cells, purification, downstream processing and testing.



    Wockhardt launched recombinant human insulin (Wosulin) first time in the Indian market during 2003. The automatic insulin delivery device, Wosulin Pen with recombinant insulin cartridge followed.



    Apart from Wosulin, Wockhardt launched hepatitis-B vaccine (Biovac-B) and erythropoitin (Wepox) during last four years. Its biotechnology products constitute 10 percent of sales in the Indian market.



    Wockhardt commissioned its Biotech Park in Aurangabad during 2004. This project is built as per USFDA and EMEA standards. Wockhardt Biotech Park has six dedicated manufacturing plants with capacities catering to 10-15 percent of the global demand for major biopharmaceuticals.



    Chemicals and pharmaceuticals manufacturing company Cipla is almost 100 years old. Under the leadership of its chairman and managing director Y K Hamid, Cipla has become one of the best Indian companies. Cipla’s research and development (R&D) matches international standards. Hamid’s brother Dr Yusuf Khwaja Hamied is its director.

    Last year Cipla’s export was worth Rs 1500 crore. The annual profit is Rs 1900 crore.



    Ishaat Hussain, one of the stars of India Inc., is Tata Son’s executive director. He is also chairman of Voltas Limited and director Videsh Sanchar Nigam Limited. Hussain, a chartered accountant by profession, is considered an expert on finance, banking and tax-related issues.



    An expert on mining sector Dr Atiq-ur-Rahman Ansari is director of Neyveli Lignite Corporation Limited. Earlier, he was general manager of this company.



    The Mid-Day Multimedia Limited has emerged as a vibrant group. Its chairman Khalid Ansari is not only a known media tycoon but a successful industrialist as well. Despite cutthroat competition the Mid-Day has become one of the leading newspapers of Mumbai under his stewardship. Earlier, Mr Ansari used to publish the Sports Week magazine. His son Tariq Ansari, a high profile corporate leader, is executive director of Mid-Day Multimedia Limited.



    A household name Rooh Afza, mere mention of whose name is enough to whet people’s taste buds, is manufactured by a Muslim company Hamdard (Wakf) Laboratories, which in fact, is a trust founded by renowned philanthropist Hakeem Abdul Hameed. Its annual turn over is reported to be about 125 crore and profit is near about 34 crore.



    The ARJ Allana Group is another premier Muslim company. Specialised in export of food products, the group is run by Abdul Razak Allana and his sons. It was recognised by the Government of India as being the second largest earner of foreign currency for the country and awarded a Gold Status in the Exporters Directories.


    The above is only a brief glimpse of Muslim presence in India Inc. and is by no means a definitive list of Muslim corporate leaders


    Abdul Kalam

    Avul Pakir Jainulabdeen Abdul Kalam (Tamil: அவுல் பகீர் ஜைனுலாப்தீன் அப்துல் கலாம்)(Hindi: अवुल पकिर जैनुलाअबदीन अब्दुल कलाम) born October 15, 1931, Tamil Nadu, India, usually and mistakenly referred to as Dr. A. P. J. Abdul Kalam^ , despite not having a PhD,) was the eleventh President of India, serving from 2002 to 2007.[2] A notable scientist and engineer, he is often referred to as the Missile Man of India for his work and is considered a progressive mentor, innovator and visionary in India. He is also popularly known as the People's President. His term as president ended on July 25, 2007.
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    * 1 Honors
    * 2 Political views
    * 3 Personal life
    * 4 See also
    * 5 References
    * 6 Books
    * 7 External links

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    Kalam has received honorary doctorates from as many as thirty universities .[3] The Government of India has honored him with the nation's highest civilian honors: the Padma Bhushan in 1981; Padma Vibhushan in 1990; and the Bharat Ratna in 1997.

    Kalam is the third President of India to have been honoured with a Bharat Ratna before being elected to the highest office, the other two being Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan and Zakir Hussain. He is also the first scientist and first bachelor to occupy Rashtrapati Bhavan.

    Referred to as the "People's President", Kalam is often considered amongst India's greatest presidents, going on to win a poll conducted by news channel CNN-IBN for India's Best President.

    In October 2007, Kalam received a Honorary Doctorate of Science from the University of Wolverhampton.[4]

    [edit] Political views

    Kalam's probable views on certain issues have been espoused by him in his book India 2020 where he strongly advocates an action plan to develop India into a knowledge superpower and into a developed nation by the year 2020. Kalam is credited with the view that India ought to take a more assertive stance in international relations; he regards his work on India's nuclear weapons program as a way to assert India's place as a future superpower.

    Kalam continues to take an active interest in other developments in the field of science and technology as well. He has proposed a research programme for developing bio-implants. He is a supporter of Open source software over proprietary solutions and believes that the use of open source software on a large scale will bring more people the benefits of information technology.

    Kalam's belief in the power of science to resolve society's problems and his views of these problems as a result of inefficient distribution of resources is modernistic. He also sees science and technology as ideology-free areas and emphasizes the cultivation of scientific temper and entrepreneurial drive. In this, he finds a lot of support among India's new business leaders like the founders of Infosys and Wipro, (leading Indian IT corporations) who began their careers as technology professionals much in the same way Kalam did.

    [edit] Personal life

    APJ Abdul Kalam was born in 1931 in a middle-class family in Rameshwaram, a town well-known for its Hindu shrines. His mother tongue is Tamil. His father, a devout Muslim, owned boats which he rented out to local fishermen and was a good friend of Hindu religious leaders and the school teachers at Rameshwaram. APJ Abdul Kalam mentions in his biography that to support his studies, he started his career as a newspaper vendor. This was also told in the book, A Boy and His Dream: Three Stories from the Childhood of Abdul Kalam by Vinita Krishna. The house Kalam was born in can still be found on the Mosque street at Rameswaram, and his brother's curio shop abuts it. This has become a point-of-call for tourists who seek out the place. Kalam grew up in an intimate relationship with nature, and he says in Wings of Fire that he never could imagine that water could be so powerful a destroying force as that he witnessed when he was six. That was in 1964 when a cyclonic storm swept away the Pamban bridge and a trainload of passengers with it and also Kalam's native village, Dhanushkodi.

    Kalam observes strict personal discipline, vegetarianism, teetotalism and celibacy[5]. Kalam is a scholar of Thirukkural; in most of his speeches, he quotes at least one kural. Kalam has written several inspirational books, most notably his autobiography Wings of Fire, aimed at motivating Indian youth. Another of his books, Guiding Souls: Dialogues on the Purpose of Life reveals his spiritual side. He has written poems in Tamil as well. It has been reported that there is considerable demand in South Korea for translated versions of books authored by him. [6].

    Dr. Kalam visited the Carnegie Mellon campus on October 16th, 2007 where he spoke in front of numerous students and faculty regarding the role of science and the view of India in the future. He received a honorary doctorate from the university.
     
  14. professorjay

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    Great job on the video and syncing it w/ the music. Not that I have any skills like you, but it makes me want to buy a video camera for vacations now. I made photo dvd's w/ iMovie and it's a much better way to enjoy reminiscing than a photo album. Videos would be even better.

    Hate to go off topic, but does anyone know if Incubus totally sampled, originally played, or did a combination of both in that song? I'm pretty sure they've used sitars before, but I don't really follow them so I'm not sure.
     
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    Nice video. Great images and good job editing and putting it to music. I'm better with still images but here was my shot at a travel video.

    <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1jCWyqzXoZo&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1jCWyqzXoZo&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

    Its just driving in Sri Lanka which I thought was pretty hairy..
     
  17. SWTsig

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    ha! let me fill you in on something:

    houston, la, and nyc ARE dirty. have you ever been to nyc? or how about the smog that blankets LA?

    but your feign attempt at outrage over her harmelss (yet apparently truthful) comment is hysterical. keep up the good fight!
     
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    [​IMG]
     
  19. thadeus

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    Hi, I'm a honky cracker!
     
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    Thanks for posting this video- what a beautiful place. I'm sure with so much water the country is very green. Beautiful place
     

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