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Pacquiao vs. Clottey Cowboys Stadium

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by da1, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. MiddleMan

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    But most of those punches did not land IIRC. Mostly hitting his arms and elbows.
     
  2. coolweather

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    right but i don't think Floyd's arms and elbows are as solid as Clottey's.
     
  3. bladeage

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    You're thinking of Floyd knocking Marquez down in his last fight.


    Anyway, nothing about what happened last night impressed me. That is exactly the way I figured it would go. Clottey is like 95% Defense. He picks his punches but he takes too damn long to attack. I think he is feather-fisted but thinks he isn't.

    None of that will happen when Pac fights Floyd. Floyd will not stand in front of Pac and absorb punishment to the arms and gloves. Clottey and Floyd, while both depend on their defense, don't even compare. Clottey absorbs and relies and his opponent possibly tiring out. Floyd on the other hand uses his whole body to defend and move away.

    Pac won't be able to land combos, and if he does it will be at an ineffective range. See the Floyd/Marquez fight. Floyd gets into his defensive stance, then steps in when Marquez tries to initiate his offense. Floyd sets his foot between Marquez's legs, and keeps him close, at a range where none of his punches will do damage. Marquez throws flurries that do nothing, then Floyd steps around and throws counters.

    That is exactly how a fight between Floyd and Pac will go. Pac is a great fighter, but his style is tailor-made to be exposed by Floyd. I say Pac fights someone else before he fights Floyd. Just so he can make some more money before Floyd beats him.
     
  4. MiddleMan

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    He wont need to, he will counter punch that clown.
     
  5. coolweather

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    How can you say it's tailor made when Pacman is a versatile boxer? he can throw punches at the different angles? Floyd has never fought a guy like that. I'm not saying it's an easy fight for Manny, I think this is the reason why people love to see this kind of fight. The best in D versus the best in O.

    The only difference is Manny fights the best, Floyd fights the former best.
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    too bad his punches aren't even harder than Clottey's.

    All Manny needs Is one good shot and Mayweather will go down. No way in hell Gayweather knocks down Manny.

    Manny has fought Bigger men with more power than Mayweather.

    Cotto and Clottey being 2X stronger than Mayweather.
     
  7. MiddleMan

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    It will be by decision, no TKO by Money.
     
  8. MiddleMan

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    You are right, Clottey is the best. He left so many millions on the table, to dodge random olympic blood test.
     
  9. Air Langhi

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    Mayweather is fighting mosley pac is fighting clottey. Even at this age mosley is a hell lot better than clottey.

    Mayweather has never been a knockout guy. Maybe why he needed to assume the act to draw attention. I mean he is by far the most skilled fighter out there. I doubt pacman gets a clean shot on him.
     
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    That's why Mosely lost to Cotto who got pummeled my Manny

    Cotto stole a decision from Clottey.

    Mayweather refused to fight Shane until Shane got old. I love Shane but in Boxing Clottey>Mosley.

    I watch a lot of boxing and Manny is fast enough to touch Gayweather more than once. When the fight happens I'll gladly put money money where my mouth is.
     
  11. Angkor Wat

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    Seriously? That is about the best anyone can do against that type of defense. Hard to land solid shots if the guy stays in his shell all night. He had Clottey baffled. The speed of Manny had him shook. It's pure domination when the only thing your opponent can do is block and play defense.
     
  12. coolweather

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    that goes the same thing for Floyd right?
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    He pretty much met all of pac's demands. Why would he not take a blood test. If he agreed to it, then we can blame for PBF for this fiasco.
     
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    Exactly, and not to mention his body shots where most of his punches did landed clearly.. It was a complete one side lopsided fight that became more of a joke than an actual competitive boxing match..
     
  15. MiddleMan

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    coolweather:
    the fight was a showcase of manny's speed and power. i think at one time he unleashed a powerful 8punch combination that moved Clotty back to the rope. This is the kind of offense that Floyd is avoiding that can break his d.

    Well I was expecting Pacman to break Clottey defense, after 12 rounds it did not happen. The sad part Clottey had a higher percentage of jabs and power punches connect than pacman. Money Mayweather would of have a field day with pacman.

    Compubox stats
    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Benz/DHBenz031510.htm
     
  16. VanityHalfBlack

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    because he only threw 300 total, TOTAL throughout the whole fight of course you'll get the better percentage... Clottey boxed like he was little miss teacup or something, afraid to go toe to toe... What fight were u watching???
     
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    HAHA! Yea that 35% power punches that Clottey connected on really dwarfed Pacman's 34%! And speaking of those power punch statistics, Manny landed 5 less power punches (232) than Clottey threw (237) all night. I don't know if this was Clottey's plan before the fight but once he got in there, he had the mentatlity of just survive 12 rounds and get his paycheck hence him staying in the shell the entire fight.
     
  18. wallyj12

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    You think Manny is really looking for a big pay day? The De la Hoya fight, Pacquiao received 15 to 30 million dollars (share of the pay-per-view), plus a guaranteed amount. The Cotto fight, Pacquiao earned around $22 million. So yea money doesnt matter to him.

    He wanted an ample amount of time, by his standards, from his last blood test up until the fight. Can't remember which fight it was but Manny had to take a blood test close to the fight and ended up losing where he felt the blood drawn really affected him. It could be mental or it could be physical, either way it affected and in a sport like boxing, you want to enter the ring in what you feel is the best condition possible. Some people (Mayweather) will say he wants a cut off date because of steroids, but that theory is flawed by the fact that he takes blood tests IMMEDIATELY after each fight and has never failed. Think about it, if Manny were to take steroids in training camp he would have to stop cycling or flush it out of his body well before the fight to pass these tests, doing this means you are losing the "benefits" steroids or HGH would bring when you actually step into the ring and that he would basically be taking them just to be a beast in camp.
     
  19. MiddleMan

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    Clottey still lead in percentage connected, even though he threw almost 1000 punches less.
     
  20. MiddleMan

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    Mosley agreed with the random olympic blood test, and he was dirty before both DLH fights. Just take the test or just settle with Clottey.
     

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