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Pacquiao vs. Clottey Cowboys Stadium

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by da1, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. coolweather

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    No brainer man. if you want him to open up that defense, you need bait.
     
  2. bloop

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    Yup the evidence for this is the fact that, Pacman would drop his guard and let Clottey get some shots but instead of being hurt Pacquiao would then furiously batter Clottey to win back the round.

    He wasn't afraid in the LEAST of actually being hurt from Clottey, he just wanted to try to open him up... like in the Cotto fight, when Manny went on the ropes and took some hits then proceeded to knock down Cotto.

    Yeah Clottey got some good hits in, he's a strong fighter one of the strongest in the division. but Manny simply has a good chin in addition to everything else and it didn't slow him down through all 12 rounds

    Seriously at this point, Pacquiao is like Lebron. How the **** does he do that? None of it seems human.
     
  3. coolweather

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    heard that Pacquiao is using some substance called 'adobo'.
     
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  5. Angkor Wat

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    I don't think its that far fetched. Not saying its good strategy but even during the Cotto fight, he opened up because he wanted to know if he could take his body shots. It just shows the level of confidence he has for fights.
     
  6. SwoLy-D

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    That's what SHE said. :eek:
     
  7. King1

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    Manny actually had to adjust his game plan in the Cotto fight though. Cotto had a huge first round and actually posed somewhat of a threat to Manny at that point. Clottey never did. In my eyes Manny won every round easily. Clottey isn't a big puncher. Manny already took Cotto's punches relatively easy and Cotto is a much bigger puncher then Clottey. I definitely agree with you on his level of confidence though. He used Clottey as a punching bag and loves to engage all the time.
     
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    Correct. Manny didn't mind getting hit by Clottey because he wanted Clottey to loosen up.
     
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  10. bladeage

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    Throwing punches from "different angles" doesn't mean you are a versatile boxer. First off, Manny is a fighter.. he doesn't outbox anyone. He is a hard-nosed fighter that can take a punch and dish out just as much. He is not a boxer. He doesn't know how to use the ring, he doesn't always control the pace, his jab could be better. His offensive skillset, power, and workrate more than make up for his lack of boxing skill. Which actually he has improved over the years, kudos to Roach for dedicating time to him.

    The problem with his "different angle" punching is that it works great against boxers who leave themselves open or make a lot of mistakes. Floyd does neither of those. I'm not saying Floyd is the perfect boxer, but he is the best pure boxer in the sport. He is the smartest boxer in the sport. He might not punch as hard as Manny but he can match his speed, and honestly is probably faster.

    Manny doesn't have the boxing IQ to really beat Floyd in 12. He would have to get lucky with a straight left or maybe a short left hook. Unfortunately for Floyd his shoulder roll defense leaves himself vulnerable to those 2 punches. I am sure Floyd can adjust but if Manny catches him, it might cause some trouble.

    Both Floyd and Manny have never faced fighters like one another before. It will be an amazing fight. Unless, Floyd adjusts early and Pac comes in with a stupid gameplan. Then it will be pretty one-sided. Regardless, it will happen and it will be the greatest boxing event since Lewis vs Tyson.

    Also, the only fighters that you can say are "the best" that Manny has fought has been Marquez and Cotto. Hatton has always been a hype-job.... Oscar, well, he fought at 147 which he hadn't fought at in like 8 years... Clottey.. well he is a punching bag with arms.

    Anyway, Pac made me a believer when he beat Cotto. Not taking any credit from him for his accomplishments. He is great for the sport.
     
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    antonio margarito really screwed up cotto. He just isn't the same fighter.
     
  12. coolweather

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    Clearly you are confusing Pacquiao's boxing Iq with his english skills. And one thiing, the best boxing coach today Roach said that Manny is a complete boxer now. I think that means more than versatile.

    Now, can he beat floyd? I think he can but only by KO and that's very hard to do because once floyd gets a taste of Manny's power, he'll start to dance around and do some girly jabs to get points cuz he's got longer reach. His defense is really hard to break cuz he fights smaller and shorter and older opponents. If you call that boxing IQ, everybody knows what it really is. Unlike Manny, he fought bigger and taller fighters - Clotte, DLH, Cotto.. His main weapon was his quickness, outboxing everybody he fought. Now let me ask you, can Floyd's quickness outbox taller and bigger guys???? Or does he even have the balls to fight bigger guys?

    Don't get me wrong here, i believe in Mayweather's potential but it's just too bad that he doesn't and he prefers to use his mouth instead.
     
  13. coolweather

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    this is a win-win fight. get it done Morey! :grin:
     
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    HONOLULU -- A promoter says poor ticket sales have forced the cancellation of Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao's upcoming concert Sunday in Waikiki.

    Ryan Chang of Island Fire Productions said Tuesday he stood to lose about $50,000 on the concert, even with late sales and walk-ups.

    Only 603 tickets had been sold for the show at the Waikiki Shell just days after more than 45,000 people -- the largest crowd to see a fight in the U.S. in 17 years -- watched Pacquiao retain his welterweight title against Joshua Clottey in Texas.

    Pacquiao was going to earn $100,000 at the "Manny Pacquiao Live In Hawaii Concert Celebration." He made at least $12 million for last Saturday's fight.

    www.espn.com
     
  15. bladeage

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    Manny has fought the same amount of "bigger" guys as Floyd has.
    My guess is you haven't really watched many Floyd fights. Manny fought Cotto, Clottey, DLH.. ok. Floyd fought Corrales (who was undefeated and considered the hardest punching lightweight at the time), Baldomir (who was much bigger than Mayweather), and also DLH (someone with whom Floyd moved up in weight to fight, he didn't make DLH come down to 147, he moved up to 154).

    So, he outboxed bigger guys, or atleast the same amount that Pac did. They even share one bigger opponent. Difference is, Oscar was in his weight class and not weight drained when Floyd fought him.

    and what the hell is a "girly jab" ? Jabbing is a big part of boxing. Most pure boxers have quick jabs. As long as you are throwing your jab with purpose and landing it somewhere, it is effective for the most part. So Floyd throws girly jabs when he tastes someones power? When was this? Or are you just making assumptions? Floyd doesn't have to sit there and exchange with Manny because Floyd is light years ahead of Manny in the boxing department.

    Roach can say all he wants about Manny being a "complete boxer" but I have yet to see him outbox anyone. His best boxing night was the nights against Marquez and even then when he attempted to box he got outboxed! His power is what won him those fights..and all his fights for that matter. Anyone who thinks Manny is a "complete boxer" doesn't know **** about boxing. At least so far, he hasn't shown that he can outbox anyone. He has power yes, he knows how to place his punches, he has really good timing. But he cannot outbox anyone.
     
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  17. coolweather

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    All I can say is WTF, Freddie Roach doesn't know $h1t about boxing? You must have a Mayweather blood to say that.

    He cannot outbox anyone. Dude, Clottey couldn't throw his punches. AGain, WTF are you smoking?
     
  18. King1

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    Manny has boxed well against Barrera, Morales, Diaz, DLH, Hatton and Cotto. Can't take that away.

    I still think Floyd wins this fight easy. Hopefully, we can see it so all the specualtion is put to rest. Those who hate Floyd so much should buy the SSM/ Floyd card. It's a much tougher fight then Pacquaio. I think Floyd is going to win but I wouldn't at all be shocked if Shane pulled off the upset
     
  19. coolweather

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    It's a tough fight for Manny indeed.
     
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    What if Pac beats Floyd or Mosley would that be a shock to you, I mean the guy has won 7 world class titles right??
     

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