The mental aspect is a legitimate argument. Yes, as ridiculous as it sounds, but stuff like that can effect an athlete. Ever played basketball without any confidence in your game? 11 times out of 10, you would probably suck that day. If he feels blood testing makes him weak, then more than likely he's going to feel that way. The mind is that powerful. Personally, I think he should just take the test but I'm not going to think he's on something because he refuses Mayweather's test. I'll ask again because nobody answered, but what exactly is Manny on? People just say steroids because he's whooping ass but never get specific with it except for Roger and Floyd Sr. who said he is on A-Side meth. Tell me the steroids that improve your defense, footwork and counter punching. An athlete should not be able to dictate drug testing. Something like that should be controlled by a governing body. You know, just like most sports. This is not the MBA (Mayweather Boxing Association). Let's make it clear that Manny is refusing OST demanded by Floyd, not just any type of random drug testing. http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-testing122309
You realize Floyd will have the tests too right? So everything you're saying that will happen Pacquiao well Floyd has to deal with it also. So in a nutshell, what I'm saying is... QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR PACQUIAO!!!!!!!!!!!
You lose me here, because it doesn't pass the smell test. You're telling me that a man who has made his living beating people up...who is tough as nails...who has subjected himself to needles over and over again with tattoos... is soooooo affected by a finger prick taking a tablespoon of his own blood, that he can't fight? Seriously...that just doesn't seem remotely believeable. My 5 year old gets his finger pricked for blood tests nearly every time we go to the doctor. It's not a big deal. And I find it far from believable that he's soooo freaked out about that, that he can't handle it...that he thinks it will affect his chances of winning. Honestly, that's ridiculous. No one knows if he's on anything or not. This isn't a court of law...this is a contract. An agreement between parties to make sure everyone's clean before the biggest fight in recent memory. I don't think Floyd is doing PED's...but I'd sure like them all to be tested before I drop $75 on PPV. This is out of left field. Boxers dictate the terms of the fight before every fight...by agreement. From ring size to glove size to length of fight. Those are all negotiated terms.
do you believe that some races/culture/people believe that their blood is as important as their life?
If his blood is so sacred to him that he can't bear the mental anguish of losing any of it he probably picked the wrong profession.
Since when did random blood testing become a regular part of contractual terms like ring size and glove size? The drug testing demand is whats coming from left field. Never said anything about Manny being SCARED of needles. Team PAC has came out and denied even making those claims. Did you not read the quotes? Its possible that it can have a mental effect (drawing blood weakens you) on an athlete. He even said blood testing too close to the fight is why he lost to Morales. Give me a break. Nobody even thought of olympic style testing UNTIL floyd brought it up. Now its the final straw before buying a PPV . If there was no mention of random drug testing, you, along with millions of others still would buy the $75 PPV and you know it. Did I say anything about Floyd not having to do the same testing? All I've done was merely state that just because Manny doesn't bend over for Floyd's testing, it doesn't mean Manny is on something. People who think steroids is the reason Manny became a better boxer, don't know boxing.
He was cut very badly against Erik Morales and still kept fighting. All the superstition talk is just smoke and mirrors. He was cut against Marquez too. He didn't faint at the sight of his own blood like some are suggesting he would.
I don't have any reason to think Manny is on anything, but I want you to know that this exact defense was used for Alex Rodriguez and Roger Clemens countless times.
Exactly. All these excuses are just garbage. The only valid argument is that it would weaken him if they took too much blood. That can be avoided by not taking a lot of blood. If they use the kind of blood tests I've had, it's a finger prick. You don't even lose enough blood to be required to sit for monitoring afterward. This is not like donating blood in a blood drive where people are passing out.
It's USADA testing not Floyd's testing. Secondly, there are LOTS of people who are in boxing, I'm talking boxers managers trainers who all think Pac is on something. And I'm not talking just Mayweather and Malignaggi.
Since when did it not? It's a negotiable term...obviously. Again...if you're telling me that a fingerprick and a tablespoon of blood are gonna throw him off to where he might lose a fight he'd otherwise win...I'm telling you I don't think that passes the smell test.
Who is making the demand for USADA testing? Floyd or The NASC? There are also lots of people in boxing that say Manny is clean. And I'm not talking just Bob Arum and Freddie Roach. How many fights beside Floyd-Shane have had OST? Where was OST for Floyd-Oscar which was the biggest fight at the time and currently the highest selling PPV?
I don't know if you've noticed...but there's been a far greater emphasis on drug testing in sports lately. again....a finger prick and a tablespoon of blood.
No, there are not. I am around boxing every day, with amateurs, professionals, world champs, former world champs, trainers, promotors, managers, and fans. And pretty much 99% of them are suspecting Manny to be on something. Why? Because he balked at the tests. That's shady. Bottom line, it's common sense. You sound like the union who didn't want steroid testing in baseball. Why, because they knew they were doing something wrong and wanted to hide it.
I agree. Even though its not as simple as other sports, Boxing as a whole should do random testing. You don't single out a guy that never failed a test or only random test for certain fights. Its only fait if every boxer should have to submit to random testing just like how every athlete in other sports are. Hopefully, The NASC takes note and implements official random testing so we can have this magnificent fight.
You have to start somwhere. If the NSAC does it I'll be surprised because promotors and casino magnates may start threatening them and move their fights to other states. It's all about the $$$
