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Pacers vs. Heat, Eastern semis

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by pacertom, May 9, 2012.

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Who wins?

  1. Pacers in 4

    5 vote(s)
    2.4%
  2. Pacers in 5

    1 vote(s)
    0.5%
  3. Pacers in 6

    45 vote(s)
    21.4%
  4. Pacers in 7

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    15.7%
  5. Heat in 4

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  6. Heat in 5

    44 vote(s)
    21.0%
  7. Heat in 6

    49 vote(s)
    23.3%
  8. Heat in 7

    18 vote(s)
    8.6%
  1. pacertom

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    Dante Jones "pulls the chair" on Wade

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CW_TIcH9yjc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    All you do is post in Heat threads and bash Lebron. You're just as much of a troll as anybody. I look like a troll because I'm the only one around here who supports the heat, so it's the NBA dish vs. me.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    Yep, except without his timely crunch-time shooting last year the Bulls would have extended the Heat a couple more games (or even beaten them).

    They fall into the same category as Haslem, past their prime and unsalvageable. I still think Miller could have been a huge addition to the Heat with his handling, passing, rebounding and 3-point shooting, but it was just not meant to be.

    I wouldn't be so harsh on Shane. He's trash now but gave the Rockets some good years. I was never worshipped at his altar like some here but contributed here. Yao & McGrady are why the Rockets failed. Can't comment on his tenure in Memphis.
     
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    Fixed
     
  6. Shaud

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    Every role player the Heat have signed to support the big 3 have failed time after time. The reason is because they keep signing guys who are nothing but spot up shooters who can't create their own shot. Shooters will go cold at times they won't stay hot most likely.

    You need a guy like Jason Terry who can hit the spot up shot but also create.
     
  7. pacertom

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    Before the series started it was like 85-15 favoring the Heat. Everybody was basking in their greatness and expecting them to roll.

    I asserted, earl on, that a series between the 4th and 5th best teams in the league ought not be viewed as a tremendous mismatch but rather a series that should be close and could go either way.

    You took great offense to the mere idea that anyone should think that another team deserves to be on the same court as your beloved basketball Jesuses.

    That's why it is hilarious to see you post and claim some "me against the world" posture.

    It is true that your Heat-is-God point of view is somewhat isolated. I count that as a triumph of the American education system.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    With Bosh, it would be a mismatch as the series goes on. This Pacers team isn't better than Boston/Chicago last year. And Miami, albeit in close games, beat both in 5. It would have been done in 4 or 5.

    Without bosh, apparently not so much. Eh, they should have lost Wade to an injury rather than Bosh. Wade is the most dispensable one of the big 3.
     
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  9. solid

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    If the Heat lose this series, I am going to be ecstatic. The "Decision" will look even more cheesy than it does right now. Then the Rockets get Bosh and happy days are back again.
     
  10. Shaud

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    We will see what Bron is made out of. You got Lance Stephenson doing the choke sign and Danny Granger trying to punk you.

    Man upq
     
  11. t_mac1

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    If the Heat didn't need Lebron so much, he would have punched Granger in the face. Why is that guy trying so hard to get in Lebron's face? Lebron doesn't even acknowledge him. If he didn't have to guard West for parts of the game, he would erase that guy completely out of this series.

    But agreed, it's up to Lebron to win this series solo. He has to be superman for the rest of the series. Seems like Wade is battling a leg injury. A baffling stat on Twitter: Wade has missed more jumpers in his past 5 games (dating back to game 4 v. the Knicks) that any 5 game stretch in the big 3 era.
     
  12. pacertom

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    Wade is battling Paul George-is-in-my-jock-and-I-cannot-cope-with-it-isitis
     
  13. Shaud

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    Danny Granger has played the tough guy role all season which seems forced and faked. Both confrontations with LeBron was overreaction by Granger. I guess he is trying to get inside of LeBron head

    I agree LeBron is going to have to go insane especially if Wade is hurt and that still might not be enough because the Pacers are pretty deep. One thing is for sure I think I took the Pacers for granted because of all the close games with Orlando. I think they definitely didn't take that series serious.

    [​IMG]

    This was tweeted a month or two ago after Jennings and Granger almost got into a fight in the tunnel after the game.
     
  14. pacertom

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    Since the current Pacers starting 5 was put together, they were 7-1 in the regular season and have been among the most dominant starting fives in the NBA over the past 5 years of playoff competition. And the strength of the team is not just the starters, but the depth.

    That is not my opinion, but statistical truth.

    Bosh out is a blow to the Heat. Instead of a 7 game series, it is looking like Pacers in 5 or 6.

    As to losing a guy you depend on for 40 minutes, maybe it helps to have 10 good players you depend on for only 15-30 minutes.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/43093/pacers-starting-five-is-punishing-the-heat

     
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    With the Indiana Big men they should be dominating those stats considering they faced an Orlando team with no inside presence and now a Heat team with no inside presence.
     
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    I think that is needed against Lebron. Granger stepping up to Lebron seemed to pump up the Pacers. Lebron isn't Jordan. He doesn't really seem to take it to another level when challenged.


    I think the Pacers need some attitude. David West and George Hill are the professionals. Granger lights the fire.
     
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    there is no other level to take it to. he is doing about all anyone could do in my opinion.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>LeBron on Lance's choke gesture: “Lance Stephenson? You guys want a quote about Lance Stephenson? I’m not going to give him the time.”</p>&mdash; Mike Wells (@MikeWellsNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeWellsNBA/status/203933164111020032" data-datetime="2012-05-19T19:40:29+00:00">May 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>LeBron still laughing about it as he walks away: "Lance Stephenson? Really? Come on."</p>&mdash; Ethan J. Skolnick (@EthanJSkolnick) <a href="https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/status/203932134484881408" data-datetime="2012-05-19T19:36:24+00:00">May 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  19. t_mac1

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    So you got that from your team facing 2 teams without their best big man, 2 of the top 6-7 big men in the game? One is a defensive player of the year and best C in the league, and one is the best midrange shooting big man in the game. And your team's STRENGTH is big men.

    That's like saying Philly is a better team than the Bulls b/c they beat the Bulls, the #1 seed w/o looking at the circumstances.

    EDIT: And Lebron on Granger's obsession with him:

    "I'm not no monster. This ain't no horror movie," James said in response after Miami's practice. "I'm not trying to scare nobody. I'm trying to play basketball. He's got to hype himself up to say he's not scared of me. Have I ever been intimidated by anybody in this league? I don't think so. I go out and play my game and let my game do the talking."

    Classic.
     
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  20. pacertom

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    misquote?

    "I go out and play my game and let my game do the flopping."

    260 lb. LBG is brushed by 160 lb. Darren Collisin and he flings himself into the stands. LOL.

    People have found that when you don't take is crap, he's as soft as a baby's @ss.
     

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