1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

  2. LIVE WATCH EVENT
    Where will the Houston Rockets pick in the 2024 NBA Draft? We're watching the NBA Draft Lottery results live on Sunday, with the room discussion starting at 1:30pm CT. Come join us!

    NBA Draft Lottery - LIVE!
Welcome ClutchFans Live Event

Pacers & Houston (Cato for Choshere)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by carlit0, Jan 12, 2003.

Tags:
?

Do you think this is a fair trade for the Rockets?

  1. Yes

    11 vote(s)
    7.9%

  2. No way!!

    128 vote(s)
    92.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
Page 1 of 2
  1. carlit0

    carlit0 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2000
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    4
    PACERS & HOUSTON(Cato for Choshere)

    PACERS & HOUSTON?
    Austin Croshere appears to be back on the market, like he ever really left. Having played some 22 games this season, and serving his second stint of the Injured Reserve – bruised ribs - it seems the Pacers are looking to cash AC in for some beef in the front court – like they need it, take a look at their roster, the Pacers have 10 players 6’7 or larger and 6 players over 6’9. While in Orlando this week, a Rockets source confided that Indiana has made overtures toward Kelvin Cato, looking to swap Croshere for Cato almost straight up. The salaries almost match, with Croshere coming in at $6.6 million, and Cato at $6.8 million. Croshere has 5 years remaining on his deal, while Cato has 4 years on his deal. Its makes sense that Indiana who is facing a monster contract with Jermaine O’Neal that they would look to shed Croshere and his five years, but Houston sources say unless Indiana were to pony up some cash and draft pick, a deal is not likely to happen. Houston has tied its future to Yao Ming, and with his game becoming solid, parting with Cato for Croshere who may or may not still have game at the SF spot, might be the missing piece for Houston. Indiana sources would not confirm or deny such a deal, only to say they would evaluate any deal presented to them, but they were not actively shopping anyone.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_2403.shtml


    I know we can get much more than this for Cato. I do not like this at all.
    And E.Griffin is still better, than no defense Choshere.
     
    #1 carlit0, Jan 12, 2003
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2003
  2. pasox2

    pasox2 Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2001
    Messages:
    4,250
    Likes Received:
    47
    No.

    I don't want Croshere, his game, his persona, his contract. Ugh.
    I hope to parlay Cato + into something mo' better.
     
    #2 pasox2, Jan 12, 2003
  3. DieHard Rocket

    DieHard Rocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2000
    Messages:
    9,386
    Likes Received:
    1,114
    We just traded one somewhat undersized PF, why would we want to deal a rare decent backup Center for another undersized PF?

    As far as I see it, Croshere had one good playoff run the year the Pacers were in the finals, and since then he's been overrated.
     
    #3 DieHard Rocket, Jan 12, 2003
  4. codell

    codell Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    19,312
    Likes Received:
    710
    Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. :rolleyes:

    Why does hoopworld.com get so much pub on here?
    :eek:
     
    #4 codell, Jan 12, 2003
  5. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    22,662
    Likes Received:
    31,910
    carlit0 -- If you were reporting for CNN, would you post breaking news links to <a href="http://www.theonion.com" target="_blank">"The Onion"</a>?
     
    #5 Clutch, Jan 12, 2003
  6. xiki

    xiki Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,502
    Likes Received:
    2,890
    Cute idea. A servicable back up for a superfluous non-rotation guy. But the salaries work, so 'hey'.

    Why not, KT for -- oops, forgot, he is already gone.
     
    #6 xiki, Jan 12, 2003
  7. E.J. Tucker

    E.J. Tucker Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 1999
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Rockets have the best back up center in the NBA, and he is happy being the back up. WHY would anyone want to trade him?????

    You know where there is a better back up center, Who??
     
    #7 E.J. Tucker, Jan 12, 2003
  8. eug2046

    eug2046 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2002
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Agree!
     
    #8 eug2046, Jan 12, 2003
  9. Kayman

    Kayman Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 1999
    Messages:
    724
    Likes Received:
    0
    #9 Kayman, Jan 12, 2003
  10. franchise?..NOT

    franchise?..NOT Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    0
    Cato? Hell no. MoT maybe. Can Croshere play 4. What am I saying. MoT can't play 4 either.
     
    #10 franchise?..NOT, Jan 12, 2003
  11. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    43,412
    Likes Received:
    25,414
    When I look at post contract Chroshere, it makes post contract Cato look like a bargain. :eek:
     
    #11 Invisible Fan, Jan 12, 2003
  12. Vengeance

    Vengeance Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2000
    Messages:
    5,894
    Likes Received:
    20
    Honestly, there's no way I'd trade Cato right now unless we got something REALLY good. Since Yao Ming got here, Cato's been a TOTALLY different player. He still has no offensive game, but he's really sparkled defensively, and he's arguably the best rebounder on the team. He's a GREAT backup for Yao Ming, and a very nice insurance policy to have if Yao Ming gets hurt (as happened last night).
     
    #12 Vengeance, Jan 12, 2003
  13. WinkFan

    WinkFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2002
    Messages:
    3,987
    Likes Received:
    96
    We can't trade Cato for Crosher. Ming and Cato are the only centers on this team. Any deal involving Cato would have to include someone to play backup center.
     
    #13 WinkFan, Jan 12, 2003
  14. rocketsrulz

    rocketsrulz Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2003
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    0
    Croshere sux, he's in Isiah's doghouse for that very reason. We need Cato to be a solid backup, heck, he's one of, if not the best backup centers in the league, IMO.
     
    #14 rocketsrulz, Jan 12, 2003
  15. bigboymumu

    bigboymumu Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 1999
    Messages:
    3,421
    Likes Received:
    1
    Why don't we trade just for the sake of trading? Why don't we help the other team out by improving the one area they need help with? First Mighty Mouse, now Croshere, what other crap will someone come up with?
     
    #15 bigboymumu, Jan 13, 2003
  16. dfbreyes

    dfbreyes Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2001
    Messages:
    809
    Likes Received:
    340
    Not with Bostjan Nachbar, Terence Morris, and don't forget, James Posey.

    I'd rather try to see how far the Rockets can go with its current roster. If it doesn't work, then maybe next season, look for trades.

    I'd rather trade for someone like Tony Parker or Earl Boykins. What would Calvin Murphy have to say?

    Not Austin Croshere.
     
    #16 dfbreyes, Jan 13, 2003
  17. montgo

    montgo Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2000
    Messages:
    945
    Likes Received:
    0
    I know this has been said, but strategically, why would you want to trade Cato, who is your backup center and doing quite well at it, for a backup, underachieving, overpaid, large contract- strapped SF; when we have no other underachieving, backup, overpaid, large contract strapped center to play behind Ming?

    The only problem with Cato at this point is his contract. He is performing very well and has been a pleasant surprise this year. I actually love his role and feel really positive when he comes off the bench. He has not hurt us and has only helped this year! To move him, it would take another center in the picture. I like Jeff Foster, Indiana's backup center from SW Texas, but he is a lightweight in the paint. He is undersized and would be a downgrade from Cato play wise. Croshere has not done anything in 3 years and is a real question mark at this point. I like him on this team, but not at the cost of our backup center.....
     
    #17 montgo, Jan 13, 2003
  18. insider

    insider Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2003
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    i would only trade cato for a lottery pick in the nba draft.
     
    #18 insider, Jan 13, 2003
  19. Nova

    Nova Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2002
    Messages:
    687
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hear hear! :)
     
    #19 Nova, Jan 13, 2003
  20. jo mama

    jo mama Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2002
    Messages:
    13,452
    Likes Received:
    7,561
    i dont belive any rumors that are written in hoopsworld. i think that they just make stuff up out of boredom. and as far as the rocket guy goes, i dont even think that he likes the rockets. even when they do well, he has something to b**** about.
    croshere is more overpaid than cato, who i think is doing a swell job.
     
    #20 jo mama, Jan 13, 2003
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 2

Share This Page

Toggle Width
Style
Ad Redirect Testing

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Rockets Content

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now