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Owned By the Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by plutoblue11, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Someguy1229

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    OMG, HE SCORED 9 MORE POINTS!!

    Give me a break. Scoring more points has nothing to do with owning unless you outright owned the other guy by scoring 50 points no matter how many people they put on you.

    Scoring more points has to do with the way that team played that night. Obviously the offense ran through Yao in those games more than Dwight. Maybe you should watch more basketball to know that "OWNING" means: locking a guy down on defense and being unstoppable on the other end.

    By your definition, Garnett owned Yao too?

    TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    Garnett 12.1 4.9 1.7 1.8 1.9 2.1 22.5
    Yao 9.3 2.0 0.3 1.3 2.6 3.1 18.7
     
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    This guy was totally owned by Rockets and JVG in that short span.
     
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    Rockets going 4-1 with Yao v Dwight does not mean anything either?

    9 PPG is a big amount. Holding a guy who scores 22 PPG and gets 13 RPG to 16 PPG and 10 RPG is a big drop off

    Did you even watch any Magic-Rockets Dwight v Yao games? Yao always got the best of him. ALWAYS
     
  5. BleedRocketsRed

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    Why can't you just admit you are wrong here? You have yet to present any facts (due to the fact that there are none backing you up)
     
  6. Hippieloser

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    I think we can add MrAwe to the owned list at this point.
     
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    Yeah, I am sure Yao did all the work. He single handedly torn Dwight apart. LMAO.

    Why are you still stuck in your own little fantasy world. Yao is weak, injury prone, slow and unreliable. When will you stop defending Yao?

    Rockets going 4-1 with Yao vs Dwight doesn't mean anything. The Rockets won the game, not Yao.

    By your logic, Randy Brown on the 95-96 Bulls owned the league too because they went 72-10.

    When will the Yao Fans realize that not all of the team success should be accredited to Yao. The Rockets simply outplayed the Magics, but Yao did not own Dwight.
     
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    Against other players in the league Howard is way more dominant than Yao..and I'm not talking about just centers. Howard is a much better paint protector, and grabs more rebounds.
     
  10. Hippieloser

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    Here's a rational statement: "Dwight Howard is a much younger and healthier player than Yao Ming, and he provides match-up problems on a nightly basis. I think he's a sturdier, more reliable building block than Yao is."

    Perfectly reasonable. Here's another reasonable statement: "In head-to-head match-ups, Yao Ming has consistently outplayed Dwight Howard, but I'd still take Dwight any day of the week."

    Here's an example of an unreasonable statement: "Yao Ming does not own Dwight Howard."
     
  11. flamingdts

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    So from what you are saying, the guy who scores the most points and grabs the most rebounds shooting at a top FG% is not one of the most important player of the game?

    I'm pretty sure the offense ran through Howard too, and if it didn't, it was because the coaches asked the team not to (since Dwight can't do crap to Yao).

    By your standards, Lebron hasn't owned any teams, it was the cavaliers.
     
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    WOW, did this past season not show you anything? I like the big guy and I know that I can't trust him to stay healthy HOWEVER when he is healthy the dude is the second best center in the league. Everyone has provided stats to backup their claims and you simply generalize with random Randy Brown facts???
     
  13. MrAwe

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    Well said, except the last part.

    Please tell how saying "Yao does not own Howard" is unreasonable.

    How exactly do you define own? Scoring more points a game? T-Mac did that for a few years, and I wouldn't say he owned the league.

    Scoring has to do with how the team played that night. Did you consider if the Rockets double teamed Dwight in the post every possession? Did you consider that Rockets had very few scoring options so most of the offense ran through Yao? Did you consider that Dwight is effective because he draws the double team then he kicks the ball out, which in turn swing around to the open man for the open shot?

    Yes, stats wise, Yao had a better game, but it doesn't mean much.
     
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    By that logic, no one has ever "owned" anyone.
     
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    anyone who wouldn't trade yao ming for dwight howard is crazy.
     
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    Yao is definitely one of the most important player of the game, but what does this have to do with owning Howard? You got me confused here.

    Are you trying to compare Yao to Lebron? Lebron can score and penetrate at will even if there is a double team. Can Yao do that?

    Lebron can tell you that he is gonna put on a show before the game, and then goes out and score 50. Now, that's owning.

    Definitely. When Yao is healthy, he is arguable the best center in the league. He probably has the best finishes and most reliable free throws of all centers.

    Again, stats doesn't mean that much unless there is a huge disparity. See my previous post.

    I also showed that KG had much better games against Yao in terms of RPG, TPG, PPG, and APG, but I wouldn't call that owning. See my previous post.
     
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    Not necessary.

    Take Lebron for example. If you can tell the opponent that you are going to **** on them before hand and then goes out and do it, that's owning.

    Having a better game stats wise on the other hand, I don't consider owning.
     
  18. bullardfan

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    um.. no love for chucky brown? that lazy-eyed gold-toothed fool held barkley pretty dam well esp. after barkley talked all that smack. and charles jones gets no love either?
     
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    I could be wrong but I never remember seeing KG take on Yao 1 on 1 while Yao has constantly taken Howard. I think the numbers do matter in this case because they constantly went one on one with very little double team help. I also think that the eye ball test goes to Yao, any fan who watched their matchups saw that Dwight had A LOT of trouble with the big guy. Combine their stats with the eye ball test and you will see what most of us have been trying to prove.
     
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    KG doesn't match up with Yao, he is a PF and Yao is a C.
     

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