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Overreacting on PG situation

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by 4Shoposite, Aug 2, 2004.

  1. Sane

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    So you want him to score, defend, rebound, pass, block shots, steal...

    Do you want him to do it all while polishing JVG's shoes and on one foot as well?

    Our PG needs to be able to take pressure off T-Mac by being able to pass into the post. T-Mac will be heavily defended anyway.
     
  2. Sane

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    Oh, and btw, JJ is the shortest SF in the league.
     
  3. Hmm

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    Ok, first, I never intended to make an argument that Lue had any edge over any starting PG in the league, or that I'd rather stay put with Lue and not go after other PG's, including AD.

    The point I was making, was a follow up towards the thread starter's initial point. That while Lue isn't outstanding in any area, nor great, if we went into the season having him as our starting PG, it wouldn't be SO bad as people make it out to be, nor a decline of last year's production from the starting PG spot. Infact, he's already an improvement OFFENSIVELY from last year's PG season production, not to mention in turnovers(one of our biggest weakness last season).

    While, defensively, he isn't much of an upgrade from Francis, and lacks height. I'd still feel fine with him being our starting PG for next season, rather than an overpaid mediocre PG. Such as Mike James and Damon Jones. I wouldn't want the Rocket's paying them more than they're worth. Just as Lue, none of em have any edge over any other starting PG in the league, and aren't outstanding in any area. All they have over Lue, is height, which doesn't help Jones defensively and only makes James marginally a better defender than Lue. However, Lue does have a notable edge on them, offensively. If we could get either of them, for cheap, simply for depth, fine, but that's it.

    I'm all for getting Daniels, but other than that, if we ended up with Lue as our starter, I wouldn't have one problem with it.
     
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    Didn't stop him from making the entry pass to Yao last season. Only this time, he'll be sharing those duties with a more capable and consistent entry passer, which neither Francis nor Cat were, and that's T-mac. And btw, with T-mac on the roster, there will be some switching between the SF and SG position.

    On a final note, while Lue's lack of height is important when making the entry pass, it won't be a great decline from Francis' entry passing.

    As I've said above, I'm all for Antonio Daniels. But, other than that, there should be no desperation for getting any PG, as if Lue were some horribly flawed player that could seriously hinder our chances at success next season.

    He'll be fine.
     
  6. lanqiu1

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    Does Rockets really need a good PG?

    Although a lot of people feel unsettled about the Rockets' PG position and are puzzled with the management's effort, I really think Rockets is fine with its current roster.

    This team is blessed with two very gifted player, Yao and T-mac. The offense will be simple, 1) try to give Yao the ball, 2) let T-mac creates for himself or a teammate. I honestly think T-mac can play a role like Pippen in organizing the offense. JJ himself was a PG in college and has excellent ball handling ability. Juwan Howard is not bad, too.

    Then what the Rockets really need for its PG?
    1) bring the ball to frontcourt
    2) pass the ball to Yao or T-mac
    3) hit the open jumper
    4) DEFENSE

    So what we need is a efficient role player rather than a star.

    When Chicago Bulls dominated the league, its PG was John Paxson, BJ, and Ron Harper (slowed version). Actually in MJ's early career, Bulls brought in new PG every season but finally realized Pax was the best fit for MG.

    Then look at Lakers who played a similar style we are going to play. Their PGs were Harper and Fisher. When they finally brought in a star PG, it ended up as a disaster.

    So I think the Rockets is doing the right thing to see what the players in house can do, rather than throwing money around to chase sb with slightly better stat.
     
  7. Roc Paint

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    I think there is room for concern.
     
  8. mfclark

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    Tyronn Lue isn't a great defender. Let's clear that out of the way now.

    What is he, then? He's the master of the 1-on-5 fast break, upon every time which he will jack up a shot. You thought Francis was bad - wait until you see Lue jacking up shots on these fast breaks.

    He's not a great distributor, either. He's a backup, like the role he did pretty well in for the Lakers, but nothing more. He was exposed as a starter in Washington for awhile and subsequently exposed further in Orlando. He'll grit it out through injuries, but that's not the first quality you want in your point guard.

    The Rockets would be better off re-signing Mark Jackson and starting him over Lue.
     
  9. swilkins

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    Don't tell Mugsy that:eek:
     

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