Kerry plans on giving tax breaks to corporations for creating new jobs here in America. This is an excellent way to spur job growth, especially in the manufacturing sector.
I have spent not a few hours "fixing" work done offshore. This raises an interesting point. I am unsure how much my old employer saved by offshore outsourcing. They spent less $$$ to get the job done, but there were hidden costs when their stateside employees had to redo the work. The bottom line is whether one can get the same quality work at a lower price via offshore outsourcing.
Of course he does, cuz that sounds great and it's what we want to hear Tax breaks from Dems and Medicare from Republicans... see SEALAB 2021 EPISODE 17 - BIZARRO
The US does not exclusively own "education and training". India and China should have no trouble keeping pace. Thus, education and training are not panaceas. They are just the chips needed to get into the game. Those jobs, which can not be outsourced, are those that have to be physically done here in the US: dig a ditch, represent a client before a judge, patrol a neighborhood, health care, etc.
I can see both points of view on this. My last employer (UPRR) outsourced the majority of their IT dept to India, which essentially meant the loss of 277 jobs in Omaha and an additional 330 throughout the USA. What I do not understand about this move was that the UPRR was in its 8th straight year of record profits so I don’t buy the argument that they needed to do this to stay competitive, it was simply a bottom line choice in which the UPRR wanted more profits for itself and its shareholders which is the right of any company, but where does it stop?
In business, things don't stay the same. Other will continue to improve. If you don't, you'll lose your advantage.
That's one reason I'm not so concerned. All porgramming jobs cannot go away. It was difficult enough to complete large projects when folks could meet face-to-face. I expect that the outsourcing will be overdone by many companies but will settle down after a while. Certainly many IT jobs will be shipped out permanently, but many jobs will remain local indefinitely.
I understand although this particular company has a monopoly on its segment of business, so in the grand scheme of things they will not lose there advantage. Point taken as I understand what your saying although I believe (or hope) that companies can look at other variables then the botton line all the time........wishful thinking, I know
Not really. You're remaking the mistake the big rialroad companies made at the turn-of-the-century..er... the previous one. They classified themselves as 'Railroad' instead of 'Transportation'. So although UPRR may not have a direct RR competitor, they do have competition in the transportation industry.
The solution is simply. More H1 Visas for those millions of highly educated unemployed people in China and India. Screw sending the jobs over there, bring the labor over here!
I would guess that would defeat the purpose somewhat. If ABC Company brought over 200 IT people to their facility in the US a couple things would happen: 1. Get ready for the backlash especially if US citizens lose their jobs and their replacements are put in the same community. That would get real ugly real fast. 2. Cost of Living - The market in India is apparently cheaper for labor than the US. Pretty quickly the new workers would see their counterparts making more money, doing the same work, and at the same place. Currently I'm sure they know they make less money but likely $15/hour goes farther ther than in the US. Not to mention the costs with moving your families.
H1 laws state that the job opening must be advertised publicly for X number of days. Also, the employer needs proof that the job could not be filled by a US citizen.
Doesn't defeat the purpose at all. The economic advantageous are amazing from this type of immigration, including producing more jobs. One of the great things we have going for us in the US is that entreprenurial actions are easy (relatively) to undertake. Many of those who've come to the US under H1's have done their time and then become citizens. Then they open their own companies which both innovate in the market (increase our efficiency) and produce more job openings. And I assure you that you would find NO SHORTAGE of these types of workers that would literally jump at the chance to come over and move their families. Baqui99, Your concerns are not a problem either. Hundreds of thousands of jobs go unfilled in the US every year because of the absence of workers with the necessary skills. Corporations have been screaming for years to increase the number of H1's allowed in the country. And as an aside we could change the H1 regulations, although as I've pointed out, its not necessary. So you get these advantages: You remove the best and brightest from your competition and add them to your own population. You generate more efficiency in the economy. You generate more jobs in the economy. You slow outsourcing of jobs in the economy. Not too bad.
Cohen - not to split hairs but I’ve been in the Transportation industry for 17 years, with the last 6 at the UPRR in a management position and I can tell you as much as people think that the UPRR or the BNSF compete with other modes of Transportation (Truckload, LTL, Air freight) they are not. The UPRR has more business then they can accommodate which has been the case over the past 25 years and as truckload rates go down every year the rates at the UPRR continue to climb. With all that said, IMO opinion they should do a better job at outsourcing due to the fact that I believe there are jobs that can be provided here and not abroad. I also believe that a company has a responsibility to its workforce as well as the stockholders and sometimes you need to think about the workforce first. Peace
hayes- So you think the community would welcome these employees when they displaced American workers? Now if you move them to a new area (like if the jobs were in California and you move teh IT department to Colorado) I think you may be right, but if 200 Americans lose their jobs and 200 non-Americans come into the same area to take their jobs, well I think it's a potential problem.
It's already happened in Silicon Valley. Hundreds of people protested, and there is even a website called www.notoh1s.com
Well, I work in the industry and can tell you literally hundreds of thousands of these jobs can't be filled by American workers, so I don't think the displacement would be that bad, if at all. Undoubtably you'd have the ill-informed protesting against the move, as they do with any increase in immigration. But that doesn't make their position 'right' or 'correct.' And it doesn't affect my point that you'd be removing the main incentive to move jobs overseas, the availability of highly skilled workers would be reduced.
You're telling me that we can't staff some CMOS designers? There's tons of unemployed engineers in the semiconductor industry looking for work. And I'm not even going to get into all the unemployed software engineers just here in Austin.
