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Our trade assets ranked by value sans H&H

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

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    Then why do teams keep on trading for him? Its obviously not for his contract because the Rockets traded for him before on a mid sized expiring deal. Four teams traded for him before that as well.

    As I mentioned up above these trades happen because of team needs. What is it that seems to be all the rage nowadays in the NBA game??.... playing with pace. The stat geeks out there would be more than happy to show your data that proves that Brewer presents nice to a team that is looking to speed up their offense.

    Do I enjoy Corey Brewer as a player.... .No I do not. Do I want him traded.... Yes I do. Does he have value to NBA teams in the correct situation..... of course he does.

    His contract however.... that's where the issue lies currently. That's why I mentioned before that he could be a candidate for the Rockets to hold onto and waive and stretch if they need the roster spot & cap space this Summer. Dealing with Corey Brewer now with this team sucks, but not sure why its such a contentious argument right now. It is what it is. Its one of Morey's few mistakes in a multitude of great moves on his resume. He can totally redeem himself though if he is able to move him at no cost, or even get back a 2nd rounder in return. Waiving and stretching would be worst case scenario, and even in that situation its still not the end of the world. What would it cost... like 2 mil a year against our cap for 5 years? Something like that if done this Summer?
     
  2. malakas

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    As you said contract and price is everything. Example : joe johnson to everyone is horrible contract etc etc. But if he was paid 5 per there would be 30 teams happy to have him.
    If corey brewer was paid 3 million per for two more years his value would be ok.
    Trade value isnot the same as the value of a player in a vacuum. Because trade value takes into account contract and length of contract age demand and supply.
    Corey brewer when he wasnt overpaid got traded for a useless second. Now that hes overpaid he is worth much more than a second, to get rid of.

    In my opinion brewer is top5 worst contracts in the league. I can tell you why jf you want.
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Yeah but you mentioned the words "Scrub" and "no value" etc. Brewer has alot of value to the right team, or alot of NBA teams. Contracts are absolutely important to your ability to be traded but it doesn't completely negate actual ON THE COURT value.

    I don't think there is enough buyers with the cap space to afford them the ability to acquire Brewer, but I think alot of teams would love to have him if they could get a deal together that makes sense. Making sense for the Rockets though.... that's the tricky part which is why I think he's likely with us for awhile, and possibly waived and stretched. If that happened it wouldn't take long for someone to pick him up on a contract they can afford.
     
  4. malakas

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    Brewer cant shoot and cant play defence. He is out of control as always and is now almost 30 too witgbmore 16+ millions owed.

    If i gave YOU a contract that made you neccesary to be dumped of and a team to get rid of another toxic contract like i.e morris you would have similar value.
    No team needs a wing with brewers skills as a starter or to play more than 10 minutes so as not to hurt the team and there is no team willing to pay 8 per for a player who kuwt play at most 10 minutes. Not even witb the cap rise.
     
  5. DrNuegebauer

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    Well said.
    Jones probably has more trade value than DMo right now. Expirings who are a 'try before you buy', chances are someone else pays them silly money. Jones has 3 straight seasons in double figure scoring, is 38% from downtown, and is 23. DMo has a bad back, scary for a GM to invest significant assets to acquire.

    That is not an argument as to who is better, but rather who is more appealing. Cannot see a GM giving up a 1st rounder for a few months rental for either guy, could see either guy used as sweetner to get a vet (ie, add to Brewer or Lawson contract as a nice piece)
     
  6. basketballholic

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    There are only 29 other teams in the NBA. And there's a ton of young bigs in the league right now. Terrence is just another player.
     
  7. ROXTXIA

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    Gawd. In a league where Tyson "Four Motrin" Chandler just got a big multi-year contract (on the off chance they'd lure LaMarcus Aldridge), Corey Brewer (while semi-worthless and only gets PT probably because he and JBB get their drank on and, yes, at the top of my "wish we could trade him" list).....at least he won't completely bog down a salary cap.

    In my opinion you and basketballholic are in the Top 2 most opinionated posters on the board ("Brewer is crotch cheese"; "oh, yeah? Tjones is worse than crotch cheese").

    I can tell you why if you want. :)
     
  8. basketballholic

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    At least it's the right opinion..........

    Or would you rather just read the masses of wrong opinions free of our opines? There's only 2 of us that have consistently told you Terrence was just another player. And we've been bashed repeatedly. Why not bash the myriad of posters who have pumped and pumped Terrence with their opines for the last 2 years, some of whom are trying to walk back all their posts to, "He's not great but he can help tons of teams in the NBA" at present?
     
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  9. malakas

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    Tyson chandler and asik are above brewer. After that? Brewer is in play. Afterall we all saw what sacramento had to do to dump landry.

    I find it offensive to include me with bballholic. I never ever pretend to have sources and im always open to dialogue with arguments without the discussion resorting to the likes of : why it hasnt happened yet?

    Please tell me 5 worse contracts than brewer in $+ length.
    Rose is expiring next year and sells tons of jerseys in chicago still.
    Kanter is much younger and has found a role as off the bench big who abuses other benches. (He at least is a one way player not like brewer who is a zero way player).
    Pekovic is a prime candidate to medically retire most probably.
    So?
     
  10. basketballholic

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    Yeah I find it offensive to be included with malakas. Her legs are hairy and the VSPAN tramp stamp is nasty. ;)
     
  11. malakas

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    :rolleyes: tell clutch to chenk my ip and all my posting history and if e concludes that im no vspan whatshisname please ban urself and dont come back with another username.
     
  12. basketballholic

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    Oh you're no VSPAN, that's for sure. He was a real player. It's the tramp stamp that's nasty. See you even confuse that. Too many head butting contests I'm sure.
     
  13. malakas

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    I dont understand precisely what you are saying but im pretty sure its higly offensive since urban dictionary says that tramp stamp is a way to call someone a slut. So here is a report.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    1. DMo

    There can be only one!


    ;)

    DD
     
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    LOL. You calling me a bull since my posts are bull crap??? I guess the hairy legs part was on target.

    See where this stuff goes malakas? Dish it out. Take it. Otherwise keep it on basketball and the Rockets. Or get offended when you get call back on your bullcrap. LOL
     
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    This year is an outlier for him. There will be teams needing a veteran wing off the bench, even at his contract that decreases every year.
     
  17. Raven

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    There isn't a player on the roster who has negative value, even Brewer.

    15th can't get here fast enough!
     
  18. Ranny

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    This escalated quickly. To be fair both Malakas and Bbholic have interesting point of views and usually have knowledgeable basketball opinions. That been said, both are opinionated and obnoxious in their own particular ways, and it is fairly obvious that they cant stand each other, and both have a strong case of "I am right and you dont know jack ****".....

    On the whole Jones debate, i apologize Malakas please dont take it personal, but i have to side with BBholic on this one because i dont believe Jones is worth too much.
     
  19. basketballholic

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    I have nothing against malakas. She dishes hard. I simply dished back. I like discussing basketball with her. She's knowledgeable. And I don't even mind her saying my stuff is bullcrap. Just be able to take it back if you're gonna dish it.
     
  20. Htownballer38

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    This was very disrespectful and uncalled for. Clutch should ban you for call this woman a tramp.
     

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