Bogans is a good player... To me he is pretty much a poor mans Bruce Bowen... I think it would be nice if he could be are SG next year but since the Rockets are in such need for a 3rd scorer i don't think he brings enough offence to the table.. Next Year I think the team will look like this.... PG: Alston/ Sura SG: Top Draft pick (maybe some one like Brandon Roy from Washington)/Head SF: T-Mac/ Bogans/ Bowen PF: Stro/ Juwan/ Hayes C: Yao/ Deke/ 2nd round pick I really think are bigist need is at SG that's y i put Brandon Roy up there... He has decent size, can shoot the 3, and is athletic... He might go before we get a chance to pick but he would be perfect for us... He could be are 3rd scorer because he can create his own shoot and he moves very well with out the ball...
You hated Rudy and CD huh? And you love JVG, Morey, Graham, Hayes, Bogans, JL3 and even even Lampe's potential. That's not optimism, thats abnormal dopemine levels unleashing endorphins which are force-feeding seratonin to your brain. Good for you. Not so good for anyone you actually communicate with. Well you're civil at least.
The last few games he flew over it. He is developing an all-around game lately, nice to see it from him.
I think part of Luther's improvement has to do with the fact that TMac is not involved anymore. Now Van Gundy is really pushing our smaller backcourt to get up the floor quickly and take it to the hoop aggressively. The last couple games Alston and Head are playing like a Chris Paul-Speedy Claxton type backcourt by pushing the ball upcourt so much. It just seems like since our playoff hopes went down after the 6-game skid that now we are actually pushing for the transitional offfense and the first good shot instead of throwing it around the world three times and running the clock down to 3 before a shot goes up.
I agree with the cat what compared Bogans to a poor man's Bowen. I think thats a dead on comparison. We'd be okay with him starting provided we got a legit 6'7" athletic type guy off the bench to back up him and Tracy and a PG that can create for others AND himself. (Sam I Am?) To me the most important thing about Bogans is his intensity. He's pretty much the only pitbull on this current roster. We've seen how important these types of guys are with the subtraction of James and Sura. *Side Note* Boozer's been playing VERY well lately and he fits in that intense mold that I think we lack. I wonder what it would take to get him (Howard, pick, TE)? I know he's overpaid, but he is one of the few guys left in the classic Kurt Thomas/Brian Grant/Charles Oakley/Dale Davis PF mold (Glass-eating, 15ft jumper stroking, TOUGH GUY)
I honestly think our starting lineup for next year will look something like this: Alston/Sura/Frahm (is he a PG or SG?)/ Cassel? Head/Reddick? or offseason aquisition T-Mac/Bogans/offseason aquisition Stro/JHo/Hayes Yao/Deke We need to cut the dead weights like Bowen, Lampe, Brunson. I think Frahm will be our next Barry and Hayes will be our poor mans Rodman, crashing the boards and cleaning the "trash" around the rim. I think we look pretty solid if everyone is healthy. Our starting 5 looks to be lethal next season.
I was just looking at the per minute stats of stromile vs. juwon. Name Team Pos G MP FG FGA TP TPA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 3 stromile swift HOU PF 40 866 7.54 15.46 0.00 0.11 5.38 8.04 3.77 6.82 10.59 0.94 1.55 1.50 3.49 7.26 20.45 6 juwan howard HOU PF 49 1547 7.23 15.73 0.00 0.06 2.39 3.13 3.41 6.64 10.05 2.23 0.78 0.22 2.23 4.53 16.85 http://basketball-reference.com/lab...TS&min=0&minstat=G&limit=50&submit=View+Stats ^^^^^ if you want to see it cleaned up I don't think Stromile has been used effectively. He fouls too much, but other than that, he's the better player stat wise per 48. Juwon doesn't block shots, shoot high percentages or steal the ball. I would think that with JVG as coach, he would want better defense in there and better offense. To me it is a no brainer. Stromile plays as long as he is not disruptive to the team. http://www.82games.com/0506/0506HOU1.HTM ^^^^ plus/minus stats for time on the floor More of the same. Neither Swift or Juwon are impressive(positive), but Swift is higher than Juwon again. I honestly don't 'get it'. Practicing hard is important, but not as important as the game itself. Anybody want to speculate as to 'what is going on with our PF situation?' dg
Deke is too old , we need Stro to back up Yao. I think JH will still start, but Stro will take more minutes than this season on PF spot, overall he will play more minutes (around 30) than JH (around 25). Frahm at best will be poor man's Barry. I think we look pretty solid if everyone is healthy. Our starting 5 looks to be lethal next season.[/QUOTE]
If head is going to Start for us its got to be at the point guard position. And i dont see that happening for a while. ( Poor Handles) He will be coming off the bench until he gets his handles ready to be a legit PG. Face it hes got the athlethic ability to guard 1's not 2's. Besides he shoots better than raefer.
Deke still has 15-20 minutes every night. He's looking pretty good right now. I don't think Head will ever be a decent PG. He's better suited as a SG and would take advantage of the double teams that Yao and T-Mac get.
Luther has played extremely well lately. The biggest thing is that he's been attacking the rim aggressively. With his quickness, there's no reason why he can't get into the lane often. And he's showing a bit of an in-between game and finishing drives with some nice floaters (must be picking that up from Rafer ). Not to mention that his perimeter shooting is starting to come around. I have really high hopes for him. If he can just work on his handle this summer (especially that non-existant left hand), then I'm sure that he has all the makings of a very solid starter or quality 6th man.
You seem to really like unproven European players (are you Chad Ford). You even threw out some dude named Vinicius that no one's every heard of before. Well my friend you were not clear enough! I did a search at draftexpress and there are 2 Marcos Vinicius. I'm guessing u mean the older Marcos Vinicius, whose full name is Marcus "Marquinhos" Vinicius Vieira De Souza, not to be confused with Marcus Vinicius Toledo. This guy would have the longest name in the NBA, and he's long too.
This thread is officially out of control. First, Luther should be given the starting SG spot for next season. Then someone says Bogans is a poor man's Bruce Bowen. Then someone says Bogans can start for us at SG if he had a good backup. Then someone says JH will probably start next year. If Bogans or JH (or probably Luther) ends up starting next year, the season is already doomed to failure. On a serious note with Luther: Like most rookies, he's gotten over the hump. It isn't surprising and I expect he will have more good and some bad games to finish out the year. Tracy being out has nothing to do with it because Luther played well with him earlier in the year. Luther hit the wall so hard because he played way too many minutes over a long period of time and a hard crash was inevitable. I said at the time he would come out of it. Meanwhile a couple of threads ripping Luther were started and people piled on. Now the bandwagon on him is going the other way. The real Luther is somewhere between the extremes of his yoyo performance this year. He's had enough minutes to figure out what his limitations are and where he needs to improve. Next season, he should be more consistent and hopefully will come back a much better player.
Did you know that Stro's FG% this year is somewhere around 50%? And we haven't even seen the best of him yet, he's had very few opportunities to play together with T-Mac and Yao this season (and he usually was pretty productive whenever we had that combo on the court). To me Stro's only major downside is his foul trouble. If he can keep the tacky fouls down, he's the PF we need. He definitely doesn't look half as lost as he did on the court at the start of the season these days, dropped passes are much less frequent, and his turnover rate has gone down significantly. And this is all with more playing time.
