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Our Defense sucks too !

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by DaDakota, Jul 17, 2004.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Did you see the play I'm referring to? I'm not comparing Biggio's defense at all to Beltran's, I'm just bemoaning the attention that's placed on Biggio's defense and the dimissal of his offensive numbers by some of you.

    BTW, you have those teams yet?
     
  2. gunn

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    What do you mean? All players run the basepaths. Steals may be less emphasized, sadly, but that doesn't mean it's not a productive, exciting, and great way to play baseball. The league is full of parody, what works for one team may not work for others. The Marlins of last year was one of the most exciting teams i've ever seen play the game of baseball. Ever. They won by playing the game in its purist state, and in my humble opinion, the way the game is supposed to be played. What's overrated is a team comprised of one-dimensional hitters, teams like the Astros.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yeah,

    Biggio is awesome...especially the way he allowed that shoestring ball to go underneath his glove and allowing the go ahead run to score.

    GREAT JOB !!!

    Sure, our pitching was suspect, but you have to HELP the pitching too....

    PLEASE put Lane in there...at least he can field.

    Biggio had his day...it is over.

    DD
     
  4. JBIIRockets

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    I just saw this. That was blantantly bad. I know left fielders dont need to be the best defenders but, biggio is bad enough defensivly to affect the astros W-L totals. He's lost three games now with blunders in left field and he hasn;t even been there that long.
     
  5. gunn

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    I think now is a solid time to reiterate a post I made earlier today. Defense is overrated right Max, RM95, JPM?
     
  6. JBIIRockets

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    ok maybe just 2 games........nice clutch job by Ensberg.
     
  7. Rocketman95

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    Yeah, those three errors this year have killed us.

    Here, I'll make a bet with you (one that can never be proven). You take Biggio with no errors, above average fielding, and batting .250 with 4 HRs, 20 RBI and a .300 OBP.

    I'll take the current incarnation.

    All things being equal, my team is better than your's.

    Again, there's hardly a GM in the majors that wouldn't take Biggio this year, especially at his current salary level. You want us to take a look at the big picture? You take a look, y'all are only focusing on the defense. Look at the offense, look at the salary. Only an idiot would say he shouldn't be playing.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    What about Lane? Better fielding and arm than Biggio. And hitting not as good but probably would do .270 with 20 bombs or so.
     
  9. bigboymumu

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    If Gunn can do it, I should be able too!:D
     
  10. gunn

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    Or...


    .....you could come up with other preposterous scenarios, speak more often in hindsight, and make more blanket statements.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    Shouldn't you be in the clubhouse right now?
     
  12. bigboymumu

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    Another example of your crap! You think you are actually adding to this discussion!
     
  13. DaDakota

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    I just giggle when I read this.....I hear it in my head, sounds like Denis Leary.

    RM95 just likes pointing fingers.....no harm.

    DD
     
  14. gunn

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    Wow that's a great one. How long did it take you to come up with that? Sadly, I bet you've been waiting all day to display that one.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    Just like y'all were probably rooting for Biggio to make an error so you could come here and gloat.

    Love,
    RM95,
    Once again estatic that gunn and bigboymumu are nothing more than fellow yahoos on an internet message board and not the GM of my beloved Astros!
     
  16. bigboymumu

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    Say what you want.

    Biggio is a liability. It's time for changes.

    Use the 3 million that we would pay Biggio next year on an 8th inning guy!
     
  17. Rocketman95

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    Again, thanks for not being the GM of my beloved Astros. Can you please, please, pretty please, name all the team that Craig Biggio wouldn't start for. I've been asking for three weeks now.
     
  18. gunn

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    "Rooting", hardly. I think what we are all hoping for the Astros to succeed, but I do find solace in the irony of your situation.
     
  19. bigboymumu

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  20. Rocketman95

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    You know good and well that the question was regarding the OFs, not just the LFs, especially since Biggio's the team player he is and willing to try and play any position.
     

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