Our coaching staff deserves an F- to the 10th power

I'd put my money on JVG's rockets that took Utah to seven games over this one. JVG's Rockets outside of Yao and Tmac had crap talent, but did more than this one. If JVG had this roster with this talent......we make plenty of noise. His teams had a swagger.

 

You're dumb. Isiah Thomas is a criminal...why should we hired him?? Rick Adelman is in the same boat..that's why he should be fired.

As far as Yao getting fronted. He wasn't getting fronted when they were up by 14 and dominating. At that time, they DIDN'T go to Yao...so what you see is Yao running up and down the floor doing basically nothing. They only front Yao when the game is closed.

 

Particularly in the final 5!

People blaming Adelman
You do realize that he's just delivered back to back 50+ win seasons, a 4th seed and a 5th seed while missing a significant peice for a good part of each season.

You guys are crazy...

Don't get me wrong, I would've loved to be number 2 seed too - but it was that damn close - if you want to blame anyone, blame the players inability to execute down the stretch a couple of times this season (that San Antonio game comes to mind...

 

I think you're a pinhead.

There's a reason Van Gundy didn't have the talent - he kept bringing in 'hard nosed defenders' as the 8th through 15th man.

Don't forget that Adelman didn't really have TMac this season (he had the artist formerly known as TMac for some stretches...)

 

I'm not advocating firing but as nice as that 22 game win streak was, it did not get us out of the first round. Regardless of style, its about advancing. RA has a much more talented group and its fair to expect more. FYI, SA is also boring but they have more rings than the number of times we've advanced in the last decade.

 

Oh yeah, what a horrible coach. Damned our 53 wins without arguably our most talented player and amongst all sorts of turmoil. I guess if we had a good coach we would've gone 82-0.

Idiot.

 

He also didn't really have Morey who pulled the trigger on most of these moves, sorry, but even JVG woul've recognized his team needed more scoring.

P.S.

nice job at throwing around idiot insults (idiot)........one thing I do know, during a timeout JVG isn't going to pat players on the back, He would atleast have a plan and plays to draw up.

 

Coaches earn their keep in the playoffs and during big games....Adelman failed at that and while he "didn't have Tmac" nobody can argue that the talent on this team more than makes up for anything JVG had.

 

WTF are you talking about right about now?

 

Yes, you're right...it had nothing to do with the coach that couldn't make adjustments or draw up plays when it mattered the most. We don't need pep talks, we need a leader and JVG was that leader and so are other elite head coaches around the league. I was floored when I heared Adelman wasn't even drawing up plays or trying to counter act what the Mavs were throwing out there.

 

This is only his second year as a coach. In both years, one of his top two players was/will be out for the playoffs. Even still, this year, with this squad, even as the fifth seed, I expect getting out of the first round. Not doing so would obviously be another big disappointment. Let's see what happens.

As for San Antonio and Popovich....of the three major sports, coaching may have the least impact in basketball. Certainly football coaches have a more direct impact. And likely baseball coaches, too.

The biggest impact a coach has in basketball is philosophy and culture. And I think Pop's is a great coach because he has a philosophy, that works for his team, that he doesn't deviate from, a culture that leads to and supports success. This is the same reason Jerry Sloan's teams are solid year in and year out. The same can be said for Phil...and Pop's, Sloan, Phil...all of their philosophies and cultures are different. Is Phil Jackson that much better of a coach than Jerry Sloan that he has 9 championship and Sloan has 0? Of course not. Because at the end of the day, when you have MJ/Pippen + solid role players, or Shaq/Kobe + solid role players...it's better than Stockton/Malone + decent role players - close, though, but talent universally prevails.

You'd be hard pressed to find any NBA champion in the last 25+ years where you can't legitimately say that the winning team was the most talented. They always are...and in the rare instances where the team as a whole might not be the most talented in the league, it will have that one special player who just is that much more of a winner.

I'm with the Dr. on this one. I commend Adelman and his staff overall. He doesn't get enough credit, frankly. The Battier 1.5+ month injury, the constant T-Mac drama, the Rafer trade, the Landry shooting and injuries, the Ron Artest half season slump...all these things are basically out of his control and still a 50+ win season. They're 16-7 since March 1st and 5-1 to end the season. They have even or winning records against all other playoff contenders except the Lakers.

"Adelman should have made this call or this timeout, or acted this way. He should have taken Artest aside....etc, etc, etc." Fans have the benefit of assuming, in hindsight, their way would work. Whereas, more likely, a firmer tact with Artest probably results in a worse situation.

I'm optimistic about the match-up. Even without home-court, the Rockets match up well. The Blazers don't have PG strength, which typically hurts the Rockets. They don't have athletic centers that can step outside the paint, which typically hurts the Rockets. They're young, which can be a positive.

It's all good...

 

I smell alcohol on your breath. What does JVG have to do with anything?

 

Sorry, but I stopped reading this post as soon as I read that....just couldn't go on.

First of all, Basketball coaching is dead even with NFL coaching...if not even greater. How many NFL coaches are there that have won 3+ NBA titles....NBA coaches?

Second, anybody that would put MLB managers ahead of NBA coaches..

A.) don't know crap about baseball and...

B.) is devaluing the NBA coach and what he has to do.

MLB managers don't remotely come close to anything a NBA coach or a NFL coach does....most of the time a NFL and MLB lineup is already set, you line your best up and go to war. How many time are players going in and out of the lineup in the average NFL or MLB game? How many times do NBA coaches have to counter other subsitutions with their own subsitutions?...don't see that in the NFL and MLB.

Baseball is the easiest damn sport to manage you get your batting order set, line up your pitchers and go at it......NFL, set the starters on defense and offense (which you figure out before even the damn season starts in preseason and training camp and let em rip)... NBA, the bottom guy on your roster might be the most important guy on any given night (every night changes due to match ups and you have to be on your toes) and you need to recognize that and put him in the game or keep him in the game when he's hot. For anybody to say this game doesn't require great coaching doesn't know crap about the game or the other sports mentioned in this thread.

 

Hmm, I don't know......this is a coaching thread isn't it? JVG was a coach wasn't he? BTW, I smell fail on your breath. God forbid if JVG is brought up in a thread about coaching, yep he has absolutely nothing to do with coaching a NBA team.

 

Sure thing - pinhead and idiot are fairly different terms (pinhead).

You're completely delusional if you think JVG if a better coach than Adelman.
Sure, he might not have 'back patted' - but he would've drawn up an overly complicated diagram with the bailout of 'just chuck up a 3'.

Speaking of Morey pulling the trigger - who was it that decided to change coaches anyway?

Oops.

 

This will turn in to a dead end argument, but NFL head coaches have a plethora of assistant coaches helping them to do what they do. And we actually have absolutely zero idea what percentage of plays quarterbacks calls versus the coaching staff.

Bad argument.

 

Oh yeh - Adelman lost on purpose tonight.

That was his secret plan all along.

I mean does he even know how to win? I'll bet Rick never had a 60 win team did he?

 

JVG never got the Rockets out of the first round either. But anyway, I think there is misunderstanding going on here so I will agree to disagree.

 

Bad post you made and I still don't know what argument you just typed.

NFL coaches coach 53 men and there's alot of position coaches.......NBA, 15 players and alot of assistent coaches. Plus they don't have a doubt what plays the Quarterback calls versus the coaching staff. "slap, slap" poor soul (non NFL watching guy), the coaches call ever play, they (the QBs) are just free to audible out of that set play if the defense motions to a obvious defense that'll will defeat it or shut it down. Just like NBA PGs it's read and react.

Which is why I put the NFL right there with the NBA as far as coaching goes, but anybody who would even mention MLB with the NBA is a complete joke...sorry, but that's funny and MLB doesn't come remotely close to the NFL of the NBA as far as coaching.

 

Okay we'll agree to disagree, but JVG took a team that was less talented futher to advancing twice than what Adelman has (if he gets production out of his 5th starter they go to the second round) I was a "Adelman supporter" until tonight, when he just became a back padder and chearleader.....sorry, but I would rather have my coach drawing up plays during clutch moments.