Othella was a very skilled PF. He was and is awesome at the offensive rebounds/putbacks. Don't get me wrong. He's no monster on the boards, per say. But he's just has real good post skills and jumphooks. They guy never gives up!
Any update on Othella's injury status? He put up decent numbers for them; I'm surprised they'd buy him out. If it really is just too many PFs and they really need to save money, I'd be in favor of picking him up. It's not inconceivable that he could start for us at PF (if Mo gets injured or just sucks). He's a more traditional PF, something JVG seems to prefer. If we make a deal with anyone, I think there's a good chance it would be the Knicks. They obviously want to cut salary, and have a glut of big men and players who JVG is familiar with and may desire (like Kurt Thomas, Charlie Ward.)
I would get him here in a second. Patrick and JVG are here so that must mean something. Pig's contract is not guaranteed. If Yao can make Cato look like a starter what do you think he will make O look like?
I dont think we need him, I think this year we need to develop the players we have like Griffin. He is only young and could turn out to be a fantastic player.
If were going to trade with NY then how about this? Houston trades: PG Moochie Norris (4.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 16.8 minutes) SG Cuttino Mobley (17.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 41.7 minutes) C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 17.1 minutes) Houston receives: C Kurt Thomas (14.0 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.8 minutes) SG Allan Houston (22.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.7 apg in 37.9 minutes) Change in team outlook: +10.2 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and -0.9 apg. New York trades: C Kurt Thomas (14.0 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.8 minutes) SG Allan Houston (22.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.7 apg in 37.9 minutes) New York receives: PG Moochie Norris (4.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 82 games) SG Cuttino Mobley (17.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 73 games) C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 73 games) Change in team outlook: -10.2 ppg, +1.3 rpg, and +0.9 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED NY gets a legit center (in east) and a younger version of Houston In Cat. Houston gets 2 veteran players that know VG's system well. We also get rid of Mooch's contract. Our starting lineup would look like this. C - Ming PF- Thomas SF- JJ SG- Houston PG- Francis
http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/41663.htm LAYDEN LOOKS TO DUMP PACTS By MARC BERMAN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ON THE BLOCK: Travis Knight might be the odd man out as Knicks GM Frank Layden looks to unload at least one guaranteed contract on the roster. October 22, 2003 -- Knicks GM Scott Layden has five days to rid himself of at least one guaranteed contract, and his goal is to shed more. The Knicks have 16 guaranteed pacts and are required to get down to 15 by Oct. 27, two days before their season opener. That means Layden will have to pull off a 2-for-1 trade or buy out one of the veterans, with the top candidates being Travis Knight and rehabbing Othella Harrington. One option is exercising the $2 million buyout clause for point guard Charlie Ward, saving them $4M, but that seems highly unlikely because he's been their best player in camp, winning back the starting PG job. Sources contend 7-6 rookie center Slavko Vranes, their second-round pick, is safe. The Knicks drafted the Serbian giant at No. 39, willing to give him at least two years to see if he can develop into an NBA player. For now, he's a pleasant presence and draws more attention than any Knick in hotel lobbies. At Las Vegas' MGM Grand, one family just wanted a picture with one player: Vranes. His amenable personality allows him to be gracious about being a sideshow attraction. In truth, Layden would like to get down to 14 contracts so he can offer a deal to former Notre Dame guard Matt Carroll, who has impressed after being their summer-league star. The Knicks have no true backup shooting guard. Shandon Anderson, a true small forward, has struggled mightily to fill that position during Allan Houston's absence that ended last night vs. the Nets. Carroll has averaged seven points in 19 minutes. "That's a tough question," Don Chaney said when asked how Carroll sticks around. "I would like to see him on the team. He makes shots. I don't know how it's going to happen." One Knick trade target, point guard Nick Van Exel, is now out three weeks with a leg injury. If the Knicks do make a 2-for-1 trade, it may not be to upgrade the team, just to get rid of two contracts. Some teams could be interested in Knight, as his $4.4M wage would come off the cap after the season. Harrington has two years and $6M left on his pact.
If NY want to do a two for one deal : Houston trades: C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 17.1 minutes) Houston receives: PF Othella Harrington (7.7 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.0 minutes) C Kurt Thomas (14.0 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.8 minutes) Change in team outlook: +17.2 ppg, +8.4 rpg, and +2.5 apg. New York trades: PF Othella Harrington (7.7 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.0 minutes) C Kurt Thomas (14.0 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.8 minutes) New York receives: C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 73 games) Change in team outlook: -17.2 ppg, -8.4 rpg, and -2.5 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Kurt Thomas would be a nice upgrade next to Ming.
Not that NY would EVER do this trade, but... New York trades: C Travis Knight (1.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.0 minutes) PF Othella Harrington (7.7 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.0 minutes) New York receives: PG Moochie Norris (4.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 16.8 minutes) Change in team outlook: -5.3 ppg, -6.4 rpg, and +1.2 apg. Houston trades: PG Moochie Norris (4.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 16.8 minutes) Houston receives: C Travis Knight (1.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 32 games) PF Othella Harrington (7.7 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 74 games) Change in team outlook: +5.3 ppg, +6.4 rpg, and -1.2 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED A man can dream, can't he?
