[disclaimer]I am in no way saying Brett Myers is or should be the foundation of future Astros rotations.[/disclaimer] Myers is 29 (turns 30 in a couple of weeks). It's not out of the realm of possibility that he's found what ever it is making him successful and can still improve. Cliff Lee was 28 when he was demoted to AAA, only to become a Cy Young winner the very next season. I AM NOT COMPARING BRETT MYERS TO CLIFF LEE. I'm just saying that it's possible the light bulb has come on and he can remain a solid #2 or a very good #3 at a decent price.
Two sources tell Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com that the Astros would need to be "overwhelmed" in order to trade Brett Myers. According to the report, the team hopes that the soon-to-be 30-year-old could be a foundation for future rotations. The Astros signed Myers at the bargain basement price of $3.1 million in January, but his contract includes an $8 million mutual option for 2011. We find it pretty hard to believe he'll make it past the deadline, but we can't put anything past Ed Wade and Drayton McLane.Source: FOXSports.com Just got this from Rotoworld
Cardinals Oswalt's first choice: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/base...cle_2b71d10e-95c1-11df-89ae-00127992bc8b.html
right? i'm not sure it's the stars and moon, though. want an ace? you gotta pay for it. i would hope the astros wouldn't give up a player of oswalt's ilk for prospects we're not excited about and still eat his salary...that's ridiculous. i'm not for trading him merely for the sake of trading him.
Ken_Rosenthal As usual, do not rule out #Yankees on anything. Bench, bullpen priorities, but checking on Oswalt, Haren, even Westbrook. No on Lilly. #MLB
What I really don't understand is why are we being asked to pay part of Roy's salary? Is he overpaid? Certainly not. Is he old and washed up? Truly not. Is he injury prone? Not over the last few years at all, and few times ever. And contract length can't be a problem, just 1 more year. I just keep asking myself, isn't this what teams want? A stud pitcher singed beyond just this year, so they dont feel bad trading away top prospects for a short rental? I get it that some teams have salary issues, and can't afford him, but if that is the case, then why even talk about acquiring him? If you want a true ace pitcher who is having one of the better seasons of his career, <i>and is signed beyond this year </i>, then step up to the table, offer up some decent prospects and stop b****ing about how high his salary is. Its just not! If I were Wade I'd just tell Philli and St. Luis we're not paying for Roy to play for someone else. If you can't pay him, talk to us in the off season, we'll gladly keep him. And oh btw, good luck facing the Yanks in the Finals w/o Roy, <i>if </i> you're lucky to get that far...
it's funny, 2 years ago everybody was saying that roy was a bargain and was one of the best contracts in baseball. hopefully the yankees swoop in, give us a ton, don't make us pay part of his salary, and teach these pretenders a lesson.
All of your points are correct, but the other teams will only part with prospects OR pay money, not both. If Wade stands firm and insists on not paying part of the salary, he holds no leverage on the type of prospects we get back. Since it's Uncle D's money, I say pay whatever they want and get top tier prospects back. That's a bigger concern of mine than Drayton's pocketbook. It's mostly his fault we're in the mess anyway.
let it stew for a while. roy is the prettiest girl at the dance, right now. eventually someone's gonna move. if the yanks get interested, it will definitely drive up the price.
Agreed. They should definitely wait until the deadline. Pulling the trigger now would be asenine. Then again, considering the Astros front office....
yep, the only thing more asinine would be trotting him out there to pitch risk injury and risk getting demolished when you know there's a 99% chance that you are trading him within the next 9 days.
i heard jayson stark (i think) say it seemed less and less likely that the Cards would be able to hold on to Pujuols long term, even without adding Oswalt.
Depends. Teams may not be willing to wait - there are other lesser pitchers out there like Lilly, Sheets, etc. If one or more teams decides not to wait and just gets another easier pitcher, the Astros' leverage drops dramatically. The Astros should make the deal as soon as the right opportunity presents itself. The Mariners were smart in that regard with Lee.
Well, there's no way Uncle D is going to lose out on getting 30K fans to the ballpark to watch him pitch his last two games.
The thing is, if my memory serves me right, Toronto did something similar with Roy Halladay just last year. They didn't get what they wanted initially, held firm, and traded him in the off season instead when the price was right. While I desperately want the Astros to replenish the farm system by trading Roy, whether we do it now or in the off season, or even next year, is not really a big deal to me. The only reason to trade him now is if you believe this is the last good year Roy has left, and to try to sell high. I just don't see that as the case, he's a proven ACE, just about to turn 33 (same age as Halladay, not old in baseball), and has a reasonable contract. I know its not our money, but I'd rather have Roy's salary off our books so it can be invested in other players / assets etc. I say stand firm, hope Yankees sneak into the picture, and score prospects w/o having to pay. If not, keep Roy, let him break the franchise win record, and trade him in the off season
True, but in Drayton's mind...he's pitching for the 'Hallowed Most Wins for a Pitcher in Astros History' award. Like that means anything. All in all, I want what's best for the team long term. If that is, like HeyDude said, to wait until the offseason, so be it. I'm not impatient enough to say it needs to happen right now.
