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Oscar Robertson calling out TMAC!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by doublehh03, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. stangend77

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    screw big O....he just wishes he was the MAC :rolleyes:
     
  2. ysong00

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    wow oscar just made the biggest hypocritical comment EVER. He likes to watch Kobe, but things tmac plays too much one-on-one?? omg he must be senial... thats just crazy. tmac's assist average has gone up significantly, and without a doubt, makes his team much better than KO-ME. damn, i just lost some respect for mr triple double. utah mustve paid him to say that
     
  3. JeopardE

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    I was watching him on NBA TV the other day doing an interview. For an all time great, the man sounded like was utterly clueless. Throughout the interview it was quite obvious that he doesn't follow the NBA on a consistent basis and isn't really familiar with the league today. They were trying to get him to analyze the playoff matchups and he was just blabbering inconsequential nonsense.

    I'd advise you guys to completely ignore his comment. This man doesn't have a clue.
     
  4. sirbaihu

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    T-Mac's back situation keeps him from going to the hole more, which he could easily match Kobe and end even Jordan at. But he has lacked 100% urgency for much of his career, almost until now! He seems to jack those crazy shots just because he thinks it's cooler and more fun. T-Mac kind of plays basketball as entertainment sometimes. I think that's what Oscar Robertson means about his playground style. It's not always about maximal scoring efficiency with T-Mac.

    Robertson totally leaves out T-Mac's assist though, his playmaking.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    Oscar Robertson might be the most overrated player of all time. Not saying he wasn't great, but people get caught up in the numbers - he played in a high-paced, weaker era overall.
     
  6. rennaisnz24

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    He likes to see Kobe, I think game 2 was the most shots he has taken this season with Yao on the court. Who runs our offense now? Man nothing to take away from O, but maybe he should just watch the games!
     
  7. Sishir Chang

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    I never saw Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell or Wilt play but from what I've seen of footage of them the game was different then. It was a lot rougher. Even though we have zones now hand checking isn't allowed and there are 3 second defensive violations. When those guys were playing players could practically mug each other. At the same time considering the league was much smaller there was a greater concentration of talent. That Oscar Robertson could average a triple double is a huge accomplishment then would be huge now, since I'm not aware of a single current NBA player who is.

    Oscar Robertson is getting on in years but don't discount what he did then. If you think teams didn't play D watch some of the old Celtics videos.
     
  8. Sishir Chang

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    An era that had Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Earl Monroe, Willis Reed, Lew Alcindor, no three point line, hand checking... yeah right that was a weaker era than now. :rolleyes:
     
  9. TMac#1

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    This makes me very angry :mad:
     
  10. doublehh03

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    it's hard to compare eras. if lebron can't put up a triple dub, i dont think big O can in today's league. it's just harder to even get a triple dub. the style of game is much different so it's hard to compare eras.

    big O was great in his era. leave it at that.
     
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    I agree with oscar
     
  12. doublehh03

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    this era has potential 4-5 greatest perimeter players of all time when it's said and done. kobe, tmac, wade, lebron => all could end up being top 10 perimeter players of all time.
     
  13. TMac#1

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    I heard him on Colin Cowherd the other day getting all over Kobe's nuts. Saying he is going to be one of the gretaest of all time and that he is the MVP of the league. Kobe is one of the most selfish players ever, uncoachable, a terrible teammate, a rapist and all he does is jack up 45 shots to score 50 points with 0 assists. tmac is the best overall player in the league, and if he jacked up 40+ shots a game like Kobe, he could score 50 an night also. I promise you that Tmac's game against Phoenix last week where he had 39 pts, 9 reb, and 11 assists and was totally dominant for the entire game, was a better game than any Kobe has played in 2 yrs. tmac is a great distributor, unselfish, without tmac, chuck hayes wouldn't even be in the NBA, oh yeah when was the last time Kobe shut down Dirk for seven games while carrying his team and putting up 35 every night??

    Maybe Oscar is just old and senile or doesn't know how to analyze basketball players or just hasn't seen tmac play, his comments and analysis are r****ded. Don't hate the player, hate the game, Oscar.

    :mad: :mad:
     
  14. Sishir Chang

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    I agree it is hard to compare but if you watch how Oscar Roberston played I have no doubt he could still put up monster numbers. Basketball isn't quite like baseball or football where equipment and training methods have made vast differences in how people play. With a three point line and no handchecking its very likely Big O could put up even bigger numbers.
     
  15. tigermission1

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    He has a right to his own opinion. But I have seen the guy do a number of interviews on various shows and he's about the most stuck up and bitter former NBA legend that I have ever seen. He has no sense of humor whatsoever, and he constantly dogs today's players saying stupid things like, "I would probably score 40 and average 20 assists a game". He also likes to explain that he would have easily averaged 16 assists a game if he played in today's league because assists were "tougher to come by" and "called differently" when he played. He refuses to give credit when it's due, and thinks he's the best ever. Of course, he also keeps bringing up the topic of how much money athletes make today, almost as if he holds it against them.

    He's a bitter old man, but he's entitled to his opinions. The irony here is that he says Kobe is his favorite player to watch, and he knocks McGrady's game. Basically, he's picking a guy who's sole concern is scoring the ball, sometimes putting up 40 shots in the process with minimal or no assists (as in a one-dimensional game; the anti-Big O if you will) over a guy who plays an all-around game and fills up the stats sheet, and can also score the ball like he did.

    May be the Big O hates himself ;)
     
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    he was the best college player ever, no question. the nba was a different story. and besides, this is almost as great as when skip bayless said that yao's game solely consisted of jumpshots and crap. both statements were VERY stupid, and the only difference is that one who said it gets payed by the biggest sports network in the world to do it.
     
  17. tigermission1

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    It absolutely was, yes. There is so much more parity and an abundance of talent in today's league. Having four or five all-time greats doesn't mean a thing.

    I think the NBA's "golden years" were still the late 80's to mid-90s, but I honestly think that we're on the dawn of a new golden era for the NBA. Just look at some of the players in the league now, it's ridiculous how much talent is coming into the league each year, and we're now not limited to only American talent, but the best of the best in the world; the pool of talent is much bigger now. The best players in the world -- not just the U.S. -- are playing in the NBA right now.
     
  18. glynch

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    I used to watch Oscar play. He was sort of like a taller Chauncey Billups, back when a built 6'5''point guard was incredible. Sort of like a thicker Jason Kidd who could shoot really well.

    Oscar is correct. Except he hasn't watched T Mac enough. T Mac is somewhat of a streak shooter who has to keep shooting and as we know will eventuallly get hot and hit 3 or 4 shots in a row or or 7/8 outside shots at some point in the game. When he is on those poor shots goes in. T Mac is too fragile to drive consistently, but he also has great court vision and is a good passer for such a tall guy.

    T Mac is not as tough, as good a driver or as consistent as Dwade or Kobe, but overall, as we know he is in their class.
     
  19. Luffy1

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    He does have a point though. How many times do you see tmac dribble the ball up and then fire a 3 with 20 secs on the shot clock?
     
  20. Dave_78

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    Don't forget to mention perimeter players with about 1/3 of the athleticism of modern players.
     

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