Orlando Sentinel: Magic want Francis, Mobley and Cato

It's a flop when he plays for the other guy. When he plays for you, it's drawing a charge

 

Well defined.

 

TMac for Cat, Francis, and Cato? Hell, I'd say pull the trigger. I would wish we could keep Cat or Cato, but if that's what it'll take to get TMac why not? This trade helps out Orlando and gives the Rockets a better possibility of winning a ring in the years to come. Since the Rox then don't need a ball dominating pg or a great playmaker, but one who can defend and hit the shot occasionally, why not go for Antonio Daniels? He's athletic, accepts the role player position, played with a big man before, can hit the three, and is not turnover prone at all. He could spot at the 2 as well, as he is 6'4'' and pretty strong. TMac can swing between the 2 and 3 as well as JJ. If the Rox can't find anybody else, we could pick up TMo and let him swing between the 3 and 4. I know ppl don't think much of him, but he can hit the open shot pretty consistently from inside the arc, and he isn't bad on the defensive end either. Hopefully the Rox can find a decent 4 thus cutting out the need for TMo and keeping MoT coming off the bench, but if not MoT starting isn't such a bad thing. I'm not sure about Wilks, but I guess he could turn out to be a decent backup pg. A backup at the 5 is needed though.

Daniels/Wilks
JJ/TMac/Daniels
TMac/Boki/JJ/Tmo
MoT/TMo
Ming/?

 

McGrady is not on Kobe Bryant's level. Tracy is a notch or two below Kobe.

 

Forgot to add that the Rox will most likely receive one or two other players from the Magic so that could take care of some of the positions that need help... the 4 and backup 5 mainly.

 

Then why would we be getting rid of Francis?

 

I think McGrady is at least on Bryant's level if not better. Also I think McGrady has the potential to be much much better than Bryant.

 

Dallas trade Jason Kidd for Steve Nash and some others.

 

Because.. that's what it would take to get McGrady...? What? I don't understand your question...

Once the Rox have McGrady he would probly play more of a point forward role (or at least has the majority of the touches) and thus no need for a pg who dominates the ball...

 

slow down a bit there. much, much better than bryant would probably make him the greatest player to ever live. is that what you are saying?

 

I never said much much better, overall McGrady may have a better game. It's hard to compare the two since they play on such different teams in different conferences. To be fair I should mention that I am extremely biased against Kobe although I acknowledge that he is a great bkball player. At worst I don't see McGrady too far below Bryant's level but he is definitely around there.

 

What exactly puts him on Bryant's level or better? The fact that he can put the ball in the basket?

 

oops, actually I did say "much much better". My bad, I just meant I think McGrady could become better than Bryant... not necessarily much much better... if that makes a big difference...

I believe McGrady could carry a team more effectively than Bryant.

 

I don't know if somebody else has said it, but for Orlando, the Shawn Marion and Joe Johnson deal looks pretty damn good. JJ will be better than Cat and he can play the point. Marion is equal to Francis IMHO.

 

So let me get this straight, your assumption that McGrady could carry a team more effectively than Bryant makes Tracy on or better than Kobe's level?

 

Yeah! Marion and Johnson are good... but are the Suns insane enough to trade them both?

 

For those worried that this team will be depleted, let’s not forget that Boki is expected to be a key role player next season. That is basically like adding another player to this team. So if this trade goes through, all the Rockets will be doing is replacing the spots of Francis/Cat/Cato and filling them with Mcgrady/Boki/Howard or Gooden. I also expect Pike and Griffin to contribute much more than they did last season and Mike Wilks to be a quality back-up point guard for this team.

That is in addition to the 5mil. Mid-Level Exception that will very appealing to free agents and the 7mil. trade exception which could be used to pick anyone the Rockets want on the expansion draft.

 

Except Dallas didn't receive Steve Nash in that trade. They traded Jason Kidd for Michael Finley, Sam Cassell, and A.C. Green. Though Finley is helping now, Phoenix immediately won the trade as Kidd catapulted them to a string of playoff appearances. Dallas continued to dwell in mediocrity until Nowitzki and Nash came into their own. The team who receives far and away the best player in the deal always wins the trade.


After combing through the two McGrady trade threads, I still haven't seen even a modicum of of logical reasoning as to why we shouldn't do this trade. Nothing but short sighted thinking in fears of "but what about all the holes we'll have next year??". Because Kenny Smith and Mario Elie were prototypical players at their positions, right? And whoever warned that this would be similiar to trading Cassell and Horry for Barkley is dead on - had we traded for him when he was with Philadelphia. Speaking of which, some of the same faulty reasoning was used when critics felt that the Suns had given up too much in acquiring the then 29 year old Barkley. Two young, athletic big men in Andrew Lang and Tim Perry and an All-Star shooting guard in Jeff Hornacek? In 1992, their last seasons in Phoenix, Lang blocked 2.5 shots per game and Perry averaged 12.3 ppg and 6.9 rpg. Hornacek was coming off a season in which he averaged 20.1/5/5 on 51% shooting from the field. Can't trade them though - it'll create too many holes. The Suns just turned around and paired KJ with the 29 year old Barkley (coming off a season in which he averaged 23 and 11, numbers that pale in comparison to the 32/6/5 McGrady compiled at age 23) buying themselves a trip to the NBA Finals. Barring injury, the team that gets the best player always wins the trade.

 

The game Yao had aganist orlando where he had like 40 points probaly plays a role on why T-mac wants to come here. Im intrested in seeing what the Magic fans have to say about this. Anyone got a link to a Magic board?

 

i dont think so, Kobe is a clutch player to the T........I have Kobe ranked a lil higher than Mcgrady at this pt.....Kobe and T-Mac are comparable in many ways and I think both can carry a team.