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Orl meet with mavs about Dwight, orlando also prefers lakers offer over rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets11champs, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. BimaThug

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    Actually, Mark Deeks himself corrected others who were saying that Carter is guaranteed $2 million of his $3.18 million salary in 2013-14. He was ALREADY guaranteed that $2 million when he signed his contract with Dallas. By not being waived by June 30, Carter's ENTIRE salary became fully guaranteed. So, subtract another $1.18 million from the Mavs' available cap room next summer.


    Also, to put into perspective why Dallas cannot re-create another Miami "Big Three" scenario (at least not next summer): Dirk Nowitzki is set to make $22.7 million in 2013-14. That is $8.5 million MORE than Dwyane Wade signed for in 2010 to allow for the signings of Lebron and Bosh, who also took small paycuts below the max but who each still got SIX-year deals via sign-and-trades the likes of which are now prohibited under the current CBA.

    Meanwhile, Howard quite possibly would need to take a small paycut just to get a FOUR-year deal with Dallas to play with an aging Dirk and no one else of consequence, instead having to eat an entire season of Dirk's precious waning time as a star-level talent before HOPING Dirk re-signs in 2014 for chicken scratch to allow for the signing of a third "star" without knowing if there will even be any unrestricted free agents worth this gamble.


    I fully expected Dwight's camp to pull the Dallas card, since it was the only remotely plausible leverage he had on Orlando and Houston. But it takes little time to see through the smoke and realize that such a threat would essentially amount to cutting off his nose to spite his face.

    Sadly, given his decision-making process thoughout this entire ordeal, I wouldn't put such figuative self-mutilation past him.
     
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  2. Raven

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    http://bleacherreport.com/users/771914-stephen-babb

    Any why, Stephen, would the Rox help the Lakers when they could simply make the same trade with Orlando and get Dwight? If you think it's because Dwight won't sign an extension in Houston, perhaps you might have heard that Morey Badger don't give a ####.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    The only way teams like Dallas and the Lakers can form Big 3s or Big 4s is they have to trade for the players. Those old max contracts that go up into the 20's make it impossible to form a big 3. Dallas could do it, but by the time they acquired the necessary contracts to trade for another max player after they acquired Dwight, Dirk would be about 38 years old. You simply can't sign 2 max free agents when you've got a Kobe or Dirk on your roster.
     
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    Once all avenues have been exhausted and Dwight realizes he is going to be dealt to Houston and that will be who can ultimately offer the most money, I wouldn't be surprised to have them suddenly enter the picture as a "desired destination."
     
  5. coachbadlee

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    This has pretty much been the case the whole time. Houston would have been a desired destination already. Either he or his agent just don't want him to be here.
     
  6. jch1911

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    You do understand about building for the immediate future? Did you not read the previous posts re: Dallas and a bare cupboard. ATL might be a threat... in 2013 via free agency. But did you not read the rest of my post (about other options)? Kuz I think you didn't. But moving on...

    Which star do you think is the next target that we will have enough pieces left to acquire THIS year?

    In reality (and if you read the entire post), we acquire D12 (your hero it seems) and build this year. Hopefully, one of the rookies - if not all - grow and convince DHo to stay and then we acquire another solid player via free agency (Mayo, Iguodala, J. Smith, etc.) in 2013. Then you are ready to compete for a championship vs. the Heat, the Thunder, Bulls, etc.

    But if he wants to leave, ok.... nab two other great players and pair them with a team of rookies who now have a year of NBA experience under their belt and are hungry to show the world what they've learned.

    It's a win-win scenario my friend. Expand your mind and stop narrowing your focus.:p
     
  7. djohn2o12

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    Because he still thinks he can get to l.a. and once he gets traded here, it will change.
     
  8. ejarts

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    no SH## Sherlock. they have ANDREW BYNUM. even the Mayans would prophesy that.
     
  9. djohn2o12

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    Also people have to think if Dwight REALLY did not want to come to Houston, with all his threats and still knowing we could trade for him, he could have just recanted his trade request and walked in free agency if he bated Houston that much. Right now the Lakers are his ideal team or destination. If the Lakers move on before the trade, Houston will be his next preferred destination.
     
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    I feel like a package of youngsters + draft picks on a frachise center would be better spent on a guy like Anthony Davis, than on either Bynum or Howard. From all indications that I've seen, Davis is likely to be just as much as a superstar as Dwight, if not a legendary center ala Olajuwan or David Robinson. I also like the fact that he has a better attitude than Bynum and has the same defensive upside as Howard. All that not withstanding, Howard has shown no desire to play for anything other than a big market team like Brooklyns or LAs anyway, and it's a sure recipe for disaster when a player has no interest in going to a team that displayed utmost interest in him.
     
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    A month ago, I was almost sure we would either end up with Dwight or Andrew. Now, not so sure.

    As many have said before, I wouldn't be surprised to see this drag on until training camp, or even the trade deadline for that matter.
     
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    There is no way NOH will trade Davis. Nothing wrong with dreaming....
     
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    That's what Orlando wants people to think. They're trying to create leverage where they have none. Dwight won't be a Magic at the start of training camp. No way.
     
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    I think in the end for whatever reason Hennigan will try to look like the good guy and send Dwight where he wants to go. Basically tell Morey he wants to get Howard to LA and with his help the Rockets can end up with Bynum. If we do end up with Bynum, I think the article is completely wrong in thinking that we would give up the main assets and take back bad contracts. If we can end up with Bynum and maybe only take back one contract, that would be the best case scenario. If Morey is presented with a option of Bynum or nothing, then he would surly take Bynum even though he wants Howard way more.
     
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    Honest question, why are you so sure of this? I agree with the sentiment that it serves Orlando's best interest to deal Dwight much sooner than later, but they're holding out all this time for whatever reason.
     
  17. D12 fan

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    So you wan't to trade for Dwight then REBUILD around him?

    Dwight wants to contend right now,why would he wait for a rebuild it would be wasting his prime years.Im glad you are not our gm because you would screw the franchise bad.

    Also I already said I would rather keep the rookies over Dwight,I just wouldn't keep them if we trade for Dwight.If we get Dwight we need to trade for other stars to contend right away.
     
  18. OremLK

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    It doesn't really hurt them to hold out right now. Nothing they've done is irrational except maybe pass up the Rockets' draft night offer (which is excusable since Hennigan was JUST hired). It would be irrational to wait until after training camp. Fans would crucify them and they'd get a crappy return.

    I'm just trusting they're going to use common sense. Orlando front office != Dwight Howard.
     
  19. Dream lover

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    Houston will never be his preferred destination. The Howard camp wants him to be in Brooklyn first then L.A. Getting traded to Houston will not change that. He will leave our max contract on the table easily for free agency.

    Ultimately he wants the max contract, but if he can't get it now he will get it later. Addidas will give him a 250 million contract in New York or L.A., they won't give him that in Houston. He might ,best case scenario, get 100 million in Houston (don't give me the dumb China connection, Addidas is running the show).

    Dallas comes up because Cuban throws money around. The dude has shown that he will pay the luxury tax easily. Dallas is second only to New York in paying the tax since it started, Houston on the other hand payed less than a million only once. Every marketing company list Dallas-Fort Worth as the 5th or sixth largest media market in the U.S., the most recent ones put Houston as 10th, hence Addidas contract would be higher in Dallas. Larger market=larger advertising revenues.
     
  20. djohn2o12

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    Listen up to all the newbies. Dwight's only chance to go to L.A is through trade. He is NOT going to NY. L.A CANNOT trade for Dwight straight up, they would need a third team. He can only get a Max contract with the team he is traded to. And no he wouldn't get more in endorsements in Dallas than Houston, the Mavs do not have the appeal of the cowboys. Jesus!
     

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