Oregon Community College Shooting

i don't know what it will take to bring down the violence in this country. i hope though one day that whatever happens will help.

at this point people can't think that status quo is acceptable can they??

 

If your logic is true than the right to bear arms is more important than abolishing slavery (2nd vs 13th). What that tells me is that these men were not creating laws for the modern era. They were in an era where women had little rights and guns had little firepower. No one can predict what the world will be like in 200 years so I don't blame them. Appealing to 250 year old men's "expertise" when discussing matters in the here in now is questionable. Those 250 year old men were white and generally had the same background as each other. If half of the people in there were women do you think the right to bear arms would have gotten as much support?

I know you think the Constitution represents ALL Americans' values, but they were created by a homogenous group of men. Those men did not represent ALL Americans.

And the reason people like you and the NRA are toxic is not because you champion the sanctity of the 2nd amendment, it is that you are actively engaged in lying to other Americans about the merits of gun ownership. Stop the bull**** and make it clear that guns are a net danger for society.

 

nah you're completely wrong, the killer could've gone into the school with a baseball bat or knife, he had the intent to kill so ofcourse he could've killed.

Guns dont kill people.

People kill people.

Wake up Sheeple.

 

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People who use guns for mass murder would not have the courage to use a more physical method, they are cowards. Most would get their butts kicked within the first 5 minutes of a fight. In the absence of guns, the death and suicide rates go down.

 

amusing watching that 20-something privileged hipster question that polite vet about guns

 

A conservative estimates of guns #s in the states is about 350/400 million guns.
Each year an addition of 16 millions guns sold on the top of the previous numbers .

 

nope. you are amusing. the guy being interviewed was well spoken and described the situation well. and the reporter was nice and polite and did a good job.

you yourself sound condescending, especially considering the situation they are talking about.

 

I saw it pretty much like you saw it. I guess some viewers are more caught up in classifying people into teams and that tints their view of things as one team vs. another where the subjects are then almost competing. That is the view they end up coming up with on things like that.

But I think that isn't necessarily reality. It looks to me like both people were respectful, forthcoming, and civil. Neither of the two people in the video seemed to have the preconceptions that other viewers are trying to impose.

 

If you can't distinguish between a weapon that makes killing people highly efficient and a baseball bat then you don't deserve a response.

 

Perhaps I wasnt clear enough in my sarcasm, my bad.

every single time ive discussed gun violence on this site I get met with that bull**** response.

"yeah he could've been just as deadly with a sword"

"If he had a bat he would've been just as dead, once someone wants some ded they ded"

then you get people linking news article where old mate gets shot 5 times as if thats some sorta of validation that guns aren't deadly.

but nothing will change in america, its pathetic really how much free rain gun nuts have

 

I got your sarcasm.

This society has a weird gun fetish and it's not going to go away.

As "okierock" so eloquently implied: if you don't think more guns = more freedom and less guns = less freedom, then you are an idiot.

With that type of mentality prevailing among many Americans, it's no wonder things like this happen so often.

 

Well-regulated militia.

 

"militia" meaning armed private citizens

"well-regulated" meaning well trained and versed in the use of arms (not well regulated by the government)

 

Dude my bad. You deal with so many crazies on this forum and real life that repeat the exact same thing you said except they are 100% serious. I just thought you were another one of them.

 

"Armed private citizens" meaning "armed private citizens".

Yeah, I'm sure that's what they meant when drafting a document about the basis for our entire government.

Knowing how to use a gun doesn't make you a trained member of a well-regulated armed force. Why I even need to type that out is amazing.

 

For those curious, here is an example of a state mandated well-regulated militia.

 

And by well trained you mean no training whatsoever for the vast majority of armed private citizens.

 

Why are you so desperate to vilify the president (he prob does a good enough job of this on his own when it comes to certain things) rather than just admit we have certain issues as a society?