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Opportunity has to present itself before we can make a move

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. Bleeding Red

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    This sure beat waiting and wishing. While you're at it make sure she talk to Granger how great the Rockets organyzation is :p
     
  2. Cakewalk

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    Can't make a deal just for the sake of making a deal
     
  3. rocketschamp3

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    best tread since joining
     
  4. engr_alex

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    im with leebigez. you can wait all you want, but there are instances that youre the one who needs to make it happen. take pat riley for instance. he made things happen with wade's first championship. he got guys to surround wade and shaq. and now, when he knew lbj, wade and bosh wanted to play together, he made things happen again. he gutted the heat to get those 3. and with barely enough capspace, he even managed to get mike miller.

    if i were dm, id go to the media and keep saying that he would like to have chris paul on the rockets and that he'd be calling NO for him everyday and say that chris paul would be perfect for the rockets, etc. im sure it'd make chris paul think about his situation in NO and might consider asking for a trade to houston.
     
  5. Gimmmethemike

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    Awesome thread I love it! Major Rep points! :) :)
     
  6. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
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    You do realize that, when Wade was meeting with the Bulls, the Heat were in serious jeopardy of being left with nobody and probably being the laughingstock of the league for the next 3 years, right? It was great fortune that all three of Wade, Bosh and Lebron agreed to play together and take a little less money to do so. It was a MAJOR risk by Riley that luckily paid off. It's better to be lucky than good, I guess. But to Riley's credit, he put the Heat in a position to either become great (small chance that succeeded) or terrible (greater chance that luckily didn't happen).

    There's a name for this. It's called TAMPERING. Morey and the Rockets would be fined into oblivion by David Stern if they did this. And for such an egregious and flagrant violation to repeatedly tamper, you'd likely be looking at multiple first round picks being stripped. So, . . . no.
     
  7. leebigez

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    Chicago had a serious lure because it was his hometown, but he had stated before about not having any of the former stars stilled aligned with the organization hurt. remember when garnett was a free agent and he said the way they did jordan rubbed alot of free agents wrong.

    Bima, I enjoy your writings and all especially when dealing with the salary cap and stuff, but I disagree about the stand pat stuff. DD has been saying that for awhile and I disagree with him also. Either you're in or not. You either make things happens or you sit on the sidelines. If the drexler trade hadn't happened, the rockets wouldn't have won the 2nd title. It would've been easy to ride that squad out, but they didn't. This team is in the worse place to be, the middle. Alot of teams around the rockets have gotten better also or at least stayed on par. Not to mention, some of the other teams best yopung players are alot better than our best young players.
     
  8. BimaThug

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    leebigez, I'm not advocating standing pat. I'm advocating that standing pat RIGHT NOW (at this particular moment in time) will better allow the Rockets to make "the bold move" you so badly want come February. You know, like . . . the Drexler trade!
     
  9. leebigez

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    It ain't happenin' captain! :grin:

    What the end game bima? Think about it. The only 2 true superstars left in shady spots are paul and carmello. There is 0 chances the hornets will trade him in the same division and lesser chance anthony is traded in the same conference. This big and bold move at the trade deadline isn't oing to happen. I know I sound down and everyone will see it as a pessimistic attitude, but I'm just being real. Clyde was 32 on a team going nowhere vs anthony and paul being under 27. Anthony's wife is from ny and he wants to be in a big market badly. If the wiz can show improvement, he might even go home, but at the very least nj. Paul, after playing for a tight wads owner like shinn would also like to be somewhere in the spotlight probably. Ny and Jersey are stting up for the kill and they have great geographic location when dealing with paul.
     
  10. ASidd_1990

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    Yeah I have a hard time believing Hornets management will trade their franchise player within their same division. Especially when we will face 4 times a year.
     
  11. meh

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    So you're saying Morey didn't try to surround Yao and T-Mac with good players?

    So you're saying that Morey didn't clear capspace for that non-existent superstar that desperately wants to come play with Yao? Or was there something else he could've done, like creating a time machine and traded the Rockets entire roster for the Heat's #4 pick 7 years ago?

    You mean how Morey kept expressing his undying love for Chris Bosh?
     
  12. leebigez

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    Meh, i want to say it was a well thought out and written post even if i disagree. By your logic, they should just wait it out i guess. Well, waiting it out really don't get you anywhere in the nba or life for the most part. There are a few things in your opening post that i want to react to. You talked about how the patience in the scola deal paid off. Thats true in some aspects of it the deal and I'm happy to have him, but it was also about the spurs drafting the highest rated big left to replace him and ferry falling on his face. Also, the contracts the rockets toook back kept them near the lux tax. Everyone in the league knows how les feels about the lt.

    The Martin deal. I really like the picks and hill moreso than martin in principle. I think he's a overrated,injury prone, shrinking violet. He's very effecient in terms of scoring in quarters 1-3, but disappears and will miss 20 games a year. The team had a worse record with him playing than without him. They knew they were going to trade him all along and got landry out the deal. Getting a guy like martin isn't that difficult for the most part. I will say morey played ny's desperation well and must be appauded. The thing is getting a guy like martin vs a guy like carmello is another solar system, Martin is an all star, maybe, but the others are superstar players. There are alot of thing that can't be seen in ts% with regards to players.
     
  13. meh

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    leebigez, I don't disagree with you in principle. I disagree on the basis that a lot of what you're saying doesn't work in reality. Yes, IF you can create chances to make a trade, then of course that's great. But HOW? We don't have a Jerry West to give us Gasol. We don't have a Kevin McHale to give us KG. How is Morey suppose to manipulate, "create chances" as you say, other teams to do our bidding?
     
  14. Artie_Fufkin

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    Get Clyde or Dream a job as a GM for a team with talent. Duh. :grin:
     

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