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Opening Liquor Stores on Sunday?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Johndoe804, Dec 18, 2015.

  1. sirbaihu

    sirbaihu Member

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    "Impose" the absence of a restriction? Take your Big Government hands off the free market, please.

    As has been said, liquor stores are free to close every day of the week if they like. Why don't you just give freedom to business owners?
     
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  2. Dairy Ashford

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    Other than the massive amounts of lost revenue when everyone postpones their weekday purchases to buy booze on their day off.
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I have a problem with the corporate greed that has caused increasing income inequality and poverty over the last several decades. The damage to consumers that can't get liquored up on Sundays isn't really high on my priority list for society.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    You know, last Christmas we had Christmas Eve at my place, and my sister offered to bring the vodka as we planned on making mixed drinks. Well, turned out she forgot and so, well, it wasn't a problem b/c it didn't fall on a Sunday. If it would have been Sunday, I would have been pissed at this stupid, inane LAW that prohibits businesses from selling on Sunday.

    But, please, go on with your I-am-vigilantly-against-limited-government-except-when-it-supports-something-I-am-in-favor-of douchebaggery.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    This is probably the single stupidest explanation of the persistence of blue laws I've ever read.

    Thanks
     
  6. fallenphoenix

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    This makes no sense. Why wouldn't an industry want to opportunity to increase their revenue?
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I'd be more mad at the sister who failed to live up to her responsibility.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    The guy who cries out about the nanny state wants to keep the restriction.
     
  9. RedRedemption

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    Loll.
     
  10. heypartner

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    Can't say I know the whole history.

    Isn't the Whole Foods and the Alfalfas actually a liquor store, completely separate from the grocery store, with completely different cash registers whereby you can't ring up groceries in the liquor store or liquor in the grocery store section? Sorta like the convenience stores that have an attached by "separate" liquor store.
     
  11. heypartner

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    I believe MojoMan is paraphrasing the owners of Spec's.

    And indeed, that "single supidest explanation" is exactly what Spec's owners say every time these bills come up. So, y'all might want to research this topic a wee bit.

    Spec's says it wouldn't increase their sales, and they want the day off for the "family employees." I'm skeptical of that, because they'd get a lot of beer and wine sales by being one-stop shopping for liquor, beer, wine, whereas currently grocery stores get all the beer and wine on Sundays and late Saturday, too. But regardless, that is what Spec's owners say.

    Maybe it's a combination of lobbying by grocery stores to have no beer/wine competition for football Sunday, and big liquor stores like Spec's keeping down the mom and pops.
     
  12. heypartner

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    Ask the owners of Specs. What MojoMan says, is actually exactly what they say every time these bills to remove the restriction come up. They say there would be no sum gain, so they'd rather have the day off. Doesn't really make sense to me (as it seems to me they'd steal Sunday biz and late Sat biz from the grocery stores), but it is what they say.

    btw: the Blue Law changes also try to allow car sales on Sundays. Car dealerships are against that, but they make a stronger case than Specs that their car sales will not increase, since consumers won't buy more cars on 7 day weeks vs 6 day weeks.
     
  13. sirbaihu

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    You're not a free market kinda guy, are you?
     
  14. heypartner

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    Where did I post my opinion? Show me or stop posting worthless rhetorical questions as some ad hominem diversion, since you refuse to listen to the facts of what the owners of Specs are saying.

    Y'all don't seem to want to accept that MojoMan was indeed sharing facts about what the industry (Specs, and others) are saying about the restriction.

    Argue with Specs,,,not me. I don't agree with them. jeez. so wrapped up in your own ideas of what is right, you won't listen to what the industry is saying.
     
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    That argument completely loses me. Because it was bought on a different day they lost revenue?
     
  16. MojoMan

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    Facts and the truth are like kryptonite to these people. They have their talking points and since the rest of the leftist echo chamber is repeating them, they will not dare to defy the "politically correct" posture on this. If they did, they would be called a bigot or a denier or something, truth be damned. And avoiding that ignominious fate is more valuable than the truth to them every single time.
     
  17. Major

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    This probably applies to people in a lot of other industries that would prefer enjoy a day off every weeek. Should we ban other things from being open then too? You know, in the name of freedom and anti nanny-stating it? Or does this only apply to liquor for some reason?
     
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    We go through this debate here in Minnesota every year as well. In addition to a ban on Sunday sales, you also can only buy wine in liquor stores here.

    Anyway the debate generally breaks down this way:

    Liquor stores - Most of them oppose Sunday sales. The state associations of liquor stores have all consistently lobbied against Sunday sales. The only exceptions are a few of the larger chains and stores have come out in favor of Sunday sales but the vast majority of stores oppose it. The main argument is that Sundays dont generate new sales and once the big box liquor stores open on Sunday (places like Specs), everyone else will have to follow.

    There is a secondary fear that doesn't get enough press. Most liquor stores fear that a ban on Sunday sales is a lid on other more threatening changes. Namely the perennial fear is legalization of liquor sales in grocery and convenience stores. The belief is as long as there is a ban on Sunday sales, the legislature won't take up the issue of legalization of sales in grocery and convenience stores.

    Unions - I have no idea if any part of the distribution process in Texas is unionized but here most of the warehouses and distribution labor is unionized. Those unions have also opposed Sunday sales on the same grounds as the liquor customers.

    Liquor companies and suppliers - The only group to lobby in favor of Sunday sales are the actual liquor associations. But there's a much larger opposition that they haven't been able to overcome. We get votes on Sunday sales almost every session and those bills tend to get shot down pretty quickly.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    How about the fact that you are claiming removal of a regulation and restriction is somehow less free-market/more nanny state than keeping the restriction.

    Personally I think the idea of removing the restriction is part of the war this nation has against Christians.
     
  20. sirbaihu

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    Who cares what Specs is saying? They can close on Sundays and every other day if they like.
     

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