four pages of skimming to be sure no one posted what I was thinking... and you did. rep. Sounds like OP is classic top rung of friend ladder position. Careful, you might have the best chance to switch ladders, but it's a long fall from the top and into the abyss.
so much skimming, forgot which post made me think of it. Okay, okay, double post to identify/correct mistake. Must.Make.contribution...
You've ruined this book for me! I've read it to third graders in the past. How could you post such a picture in this thread?! :grin:
You just crashed Luckkky's party and you KNEW you were doing it when you did it. Luckkky's thread was the best laugh I've had in a month. Don't hijack a brilliant thread. Start a new thread. Sure your thread is good too, but no need to sabotage. Open relationship and friend zone are two different subjects.
As far as my experience goes, there is no in between the relationship and friend zone, you are either a friend or someone she truly likes. I guess there is the "friend with benefits" crap, but that's something completely different. I'm pretty sure you are just a friend but she keeps you guessing that you are in between since you do **** for her.
Don't fall for that BS. No one jumps from one ladder to the other. Look at all those bodies piled up at the bottom.
I will be blunt with you because I do not want to waste your time and think that being direct is the only way to approach this situation..... If she was really interested in you as a male, she would want to have sex with you.... it REALLY is that simple. She is not sexually attracted to you. Next, she does not respect you, she is USING and walking all over you. She knows what she is doing and she is willing to keep you in limbo because she is getting what she wants. Stop making excuses for her, or assuming it must be something different. It is really that simple. She doesnt dig you sexually and thinks you are so stupid she can play you. If you want to be friends with her, go ahead, but know that she thinks you are a damn fool, and I PROMISE you she has told her friends, and they think you are a damn sucker too. You are feeding her ego. Have some self respect and stop talking to her and find someone that is interested in you. Don't get defensive... It happened to me as a young buck. Just move on and stop being emotionally available to someone that disrespects you.
Disgusts me to see how many people on here think that you can't have a good dating relationship without sex.... Dating is WAY bigger than sex.. in fact I'd argue it has nothing to do with sex.
Is the internet supposed to make me change my opinions on sex in a dating relationship?? I don't know what you're trying to get at here. There's a real world out there beyond your computer screen. I'm not afraid to give my opinion just because others disagree.
Well, I was talking about sex in the context of dating (pre-marriage), but I think that a divorce because of "bad sex" means you really don't have a relationship with that women to begin with.. you just have a physical attraction if your relationship falls apart because of sex.
No, but with the anonymity of the internet and the sheer volume of message boards like this one, it isn't surprising that the majority of posters care more about sex than a relationship. Some actually mean it, some are just trying to be funny/tough/internet cool. You can look up any dating thread in the history of this BBS and 90% or more of the posts will say basically the same things that were said here.
Its not even about sex. I didn't do all this just to get some vagina. I'm getting tired of chasing girls. I know it sounds crazy but I wanted more than just bedtime fun with her. Plus, shes a virgin anyways (short story: molested by her uncle at 14). So I could have dated her for a year and still not get some. I was willing to risk that because I liked her that much. Besides the stuff I mentioned, she is a nice person to be around. She isn't the typical skeezer. Very smart, school oriented. Doesn't spend all her time on facebook, helps out with the homeless, has a job and knows what she wants to do with her life. The type of girl you "bring home to mom". The funny part is I wasn't even looking that far into the relationship, just wanted to steady girlfriend. And I couldn't even get that. I've actually had better luck with girls when I just wanted sex only as opposed to wanting a real relationship. Hah, and women complain about why guys only want sex. Its because getting emotionally caught up is not worth it. Not getting any just makes it worst. You win some, you lose some. Looks like I should throw in the towel on this one. Also, I'm sure Luckky doesn't mind me derailing his thread. :grin: He actually found somebody that was in a worst situation. He's actually getting some, me, not so much. I came out of here looking like fat girl flipping hamburgers, a.k.a. a lose-lose situation.