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El_Conquistador · Oct 30, 2008

Rocketman95 said:

It must be tough living with that much hate.
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^^^

Most ironic post of the year? Projection anyone?

Bwa ha ha ha ha

GREATNESS

rimrocker · Oct 30, 2008

Interesting piece... the good news is that the racist appeals get more cryptic and the receptive audience narrows as time goes by...

What I look for is whether Obama is getting 50 percent or more in national and swing state polls. If there is a Bradley effect in this election, it will take the form of undecided voters going overwhelmingly for John McCain--not of voters who said they were for Obama turning out to be closet McCain supporters. In 1982, the Field Poll of October 27 showed Democrat Tom Bradley ahead of Republican George Deukmejian by 47 to 41 percent. Deukmejian won by 49 to 48 percent. The disparity was probably due to underestimating the rural turnout (in opposition to a gun control initiative backed by Bradley) and to undecideds breaking sharply for Deukmejian. In the 1989 Virginia gubernatorial race, black Democrat Doug Wilder didn't do as well as the polls predicted, but here, too, most pre-election polls had him leading with less than 50 percent. So if Obama is at 50 percent or better in the polls, Obama supporters can take heart.

I mention the Bradley effect because I think, too, that McCain and Sarah Palin's attack against Obama for advocating "spreading the wealth" and for "socialism" and for pronouncing the civil rights revolution a "tragedy" because it didn't deal with the distribution of wealth is aimed ultimately at white working class undecided voters who would construe "spreading the wealth" as giving their money to blacks. It's the latest version of Reagan's "welfare queen" argument from 1980. It if it works, it won't be because most white Americans actually oppose a progressive income tax, but because they fear that Obama will inordinately favor blacks over them. I don't doubt that this argument will have some effect, but I suspect it's too late and that worries about McCain and Republican handling of the economy will overshadow these concerns.

Looking at the states themselves, I don't see McCain catching Obama in Virginia and Colorado. Virginia, after all, elected an African American governor 19 years ago. The Northern Virginia voters, who elected Doug Wilder, now overwhelm the old George Wallace voters from rural South and Southwest. And some of these voters are now backing Democrats like senate candidate Mark Warner. Coloradotoo, is a state increasingly dominated by college-educated voters who will not be swept away by McCain's cryptic arguments about socialism. And nor will the voters in Philadelphia and its suburbs who should give Obama a sufficient margin to carry the state. With Virginia, Colorado, and Pennsylvania in his pocket, it really won't matter if McCain can create a backlash in Ohio or Florida or North Carolina. He will have already lost the election.
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/29/more-cork-popping.aspx
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FranchiseBlade · Oct 30, 2008

cson said:

I voted for Obama, but I don't think this is accurate.

Has John McCain actually defended racial slurs, bigotry, and death threats?
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Yes, his campaign has on multiple occasions

Earlier today, Obama remarked on recent outbursts of "Traitor!" "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" at McCain campaign events. "It's easy to rile up a crowd," Obama said. "Nothing's easier than riling up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that's not what we need right now in the United States."

In response, McCain senior adviser Nicolle Wallace released this statement, NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports. "Barack Obama's assault on our supporters is insulting and unsurprising. These are the same people obama called 'bitter' and attacked for 'clinging to guns' and faith. He fails to understand that people are angry at corrupt practices in Washington and Wall Street and he fails to understand that America's working families are not 'clinging' to anything other than the sincere hope that Washington will be reformed from top to bottom."

"Attacking our supporters is a new low for the campaign that's run more millions of dollars of negative ads than any other in history."

Update
McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers adds in another statement: “Barack Obama’s attacks on Americans who support John McCain reveal far more about him than they do about John McCain.
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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1529529.aspx

McCain at 3rd presidential debate: Let me just say categorically I'm proud of the people that come to our rallies.

FranchiseBlade · Oct 30, 2008

Trader_Jorge said:

Exactly. No, of course he has not defended them. In fact, he has denounced them, rendering these libs' ridiculous arguments absurd.
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Read my post above.

... then wipe the egg from your face.

Faos · Oct 30, 2008

rimrocker said:

Saw this on kos...
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Fixed.

Dear America,

We.

Us. We. Together. Americans. United States. Other countries. We're all the same. We are no better than them.

Yours is mne.

Spread the wealth.

$250,000, $200,000, $150,000. whatever...

In conclusion: Yours is everyones.

Sincerely,

The Democratic Socialist Party.

P.S. Vote. Many, many times. Call ACORN
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cson · Oct 30, 2008

FranchiseBlade said:

McCain at 3rd presidential debate: Let me just say categorically I'm proud of the people that come to our rallies.
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But to say that McCain has defended racial slurs (admitted he slipped loosely on the "Arab" comment by crazy red-shirt lady) and defended death threats against Obama....is a reach imo.

FranchiseBlade · Oct 30, 2008

cson said:

But to say that McCain has defended racial slurs (admitted he slipped loosely on the "Arab" comment by crazy red-shirt lady) and defended death threats against Obama....is a reach imo.
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He or his campaign defended the people making those comments.

Add to that the time his campaign staffer did the right thing and stopped people who pushing false rumors and hate. The video was even posted here. That was all good, but when CNN wanted to talk with the man who stopped them the McCain campaign hushed it all up and wouldn't let the man who was a Muslim appear.

When Obama points out people are their rallies calling him a terrorist and threatening to kill him, and his campaign responds by saying it was a cheap shot of Obama to attack those that attend the McCain/Palin rallies, then they are defending that behavior.

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